Qu1tter Interview

2:05 Luke F. Walton What's good everybody? This is Scoobert Doobert. We're back with love music more. Joined with a really awesome guest, Qu1tter. Recording mix engineer, working all over the music industry. Some incredible credits, a bunch of different genres and things like that. You know, Glorilla, who I saw at Coachella. That was insane.

2:23 Qu1tter I wish yeah we could get a bundle of track like we've got we've got a bunch of stuff that we want to talk about we're

2:28 Qu1tter good gonna talk beat making loop making recording mixing comping all that good stuff welcome Qu1tter how are you doing man yeah

2:35 Qu1tter thank you i'm great thank you for having me this is amazing this is dope for sure man I'm so glad that you could be here are you are you on one of those like bouncy balls those yoga

2:43 Qu1tter i'm on i'm on a yoga ball yeah i'm not like ball medicine ball yeah my friend uh my good friend austin weber who does music he lives in la by himself

2:49 Qu1tter Yeah. but he like i went to his studio one time we were just like loop making him stuff and like throwing stuff down and he had one and i was like i was like what's up with this he's like oh well like he's like super fit and like bikes and like runs and stuff he's like well because i sit all day like it fucks up my back and i'm like oh and then i was like you got to try this if like your back has been hurting and like my back like i've been having back problems but like

3:10 Qu1tter this thing it's like it's kind of nice and it's a vibe and you can you know bounce and like it's dope

3:15 Luke F. Walton I

3:15 Qu1tter it's

3:15 Luke F. Walton love it. I love it.

3:16 Qu1tter my thing

3:16 Luke F. Walton I mean, people don't realize how much of like a desk job music making really

3:21 Qu1tter really

3:21 Luke F. Walton is,

3:21 Qu1tter is it really is

3:23 Luke F. Walton especially especially with doing the electronic stuff like I do, too, where you're just in in the weeds moving stuff around comping. What have you been working on lately? What has been kind of your move?

3:37 Qu1tter yeah um i guess lately it's been a lot of like afro beats and stuff um like

3:42 Luke F. Walton Cool. Awesome.

3:43 Qu1tter been working with this amazing artist tenny the entertainer who's like nigeria like great like nigerian like african artist um this newer artist wand bln de she's like brand new but she's coming up so like we're kind of like developing her a little her a little bit like

3:59 Qu1tter Cool. getting her more hip to it and stuff but Yeah. she had a big week at like the grammys and stuff just being around and stuff so she's been busy um yeah and this guy manny wells too great afro beats artist like literally amazing amazing guy too and so every now and then i'll pop in a session with him but um love working with him afro beats r&b a lot of like pop stuff too like

4:17 Qu1tter Yeah, like for sure. last night and past like for a long time now i've been like pulling up with um like i don't know you mentioned earlier like i've been working with london um so like London on Da Track like he's kind of like because he's you know he's all over the place too

4:27 Luke F. Walton Yeah.

4:28 Qu1tter he's doing stuff but we're kind of developing some people with him so

4:31 Luke F. Walton Cool.

4:31 Qu1tter a lot of cutting there at his house and just everywhere but um yeah and then uh you know trap stuff too i was working with uh this uk rapper central c yesterday too and he's just like super drill like like

4:44 Luke F. Walton Cool.

4:44 Qu1tter brit

4:45 Luke F. Walton Yes.

4:45 Qu1tter rap like it's amazing it's so dope so um yeah that kind of stuff and then just like every now and then i'll just jump over you know uh you know ben davis who did a and I

4:54 Qu1tter yeah for guess with him like I sure cool work with him a lot too like I just kind of help

4:57 Qu1tter yeah him out with his studio and like make sure it's nice and every all the gear works and stuff but um he's been out of town so I've been just there like making loops and doing sessions and stuff like on the offhand so yeah that kind of stuff yeah

5:08 Qu1tter oh yeah so you're wearing a bunch of different hats right so you just kind of like blew through a bunch of different things everything from you know vocals to beat making you were talking about before about playing guitar and some tracks how do you balance how do you balance kind of like going from one

5:21 Luke F. Walton One end to the other.

5:22 Qu1tter i mean i don't it's just like i wish there's like there's so many days where i was like man like i wish i could like i want to make like i want to make like 10 loops today or something like i want to have like a loop day and then i'll get a call it's like yo so and so's in the studio you want to pull up and cut and i'm like well all right i mean it's tough because like just the other day like

5:40 Qu1tter i was like in a session like doing vocals and like all right at eight we need you to drive to this other studio we need you to engineer and play guitar at

5:47 Qu1tter Yeah. the same time Yeah. i was like all right so i ran back home grabbed my guitar and i got there and it was with um there's a session with this girl taloo who's like afropop girly and then um this guy musa keys who's like big south african like producer like i'm like you know does bigger songs and then one of the guys who wrote you that song water by tyla i don't

6:07 Qu1tter Yeah, know if you heard of it maybe it's but incredible. yeah Yeah. great tyla's great too she's and she's such a sweetheart um but like

6:14 Qu1tter Love it was it. with them and so like i got there and like muse is all like trying to like he's got my guitar in the hands he's like tell me like play this song guitar and then the girls on the mic like no like record me it's like i got like my left hand's on the keyboard like i'm hitting like command spacebar and like comping and stuff my right hand has got the guitar and i'm like like picking the guitar and tuning it and like so it's like there's really no balance but it's just kind of like i'm just gonna try to show these people that like

6:37 Qu1tter I can do I can do more than just one thing you know I can I can work so but you know I try and I wish I had more balance like I wish like there's some people who like I went in like and I wanted to show them like I can like I'm a musician and I can play guitar and produce and stuff but like I just end up being their little engineer and that's all they know that's all they know me as and it's like I can't win them all but you know

6:58 Luke F. Walton yeah no i get it and i mean it's it is funny like you got you have you have to be like water right you gotta

7:03 Qu1tter but you have to do it when you're needed and uh gotta be with like water that job

7:06 Qu1tter flow yeah man yeah love it i do too no um so what what kind of dolls are you are you using through these sessions different ones or

7:15 Qu1tter oh yeah um i'm a big pro tools guy i started nice cool originally in logic like my my dog journey is like i remember like with friends in high school like doing like we were like let's make a song and we like started in logic and my friend was like showing me logic and i was like it's like whoa

7:31 Qu1tter Mm-hmm. like you can like you you record different things at different times Right.

7:34 Qu1tter and put them together like Yes. what like that's how this works and so yeah and then I just kind of picked it up and did logic for a while and then like I moved to LA and just got super into like Pro Tools because that's what everyone was like using and that was the whole thing and then yeah so I'm a Pro Tools guy now I do most stuff in Pro Tools I will go back to logic to like do other stuff I don't really know how to use any other ones I've tried you

7:56 Qu1tter Fruity Loops a little bit because that's where everyone's doing their 808s and stuff.

8:00 Qu1tter Yep, That's where all the for beats are sure. coming from. i'm i'm just like even yesterday they sent me a logic session and then i had to like cut vocals and logic and i was so annoyed i was like i was like i know i was like because i'm like doing all the pro tool shortcuts and stuff and they've got their session it's not my template and but i was just like oh my god like i feel so slow and i should get better at like logic and stuff again and just like even out the score with right the laws

8:26 Qu1tter for but sure It's just tough, but Pro Tools is my thing. Pro Tools is the one.

8:30 Luke F. Walton it's good to know that i'm not the only pro tools user out there in the world so

8:33 Qu1tter Really?

8:34 Luke F. Walton yeah same game yeah

8:35 Qu1tter Interesting.

8:36 Luke F. Walton i actually very similar i started i started garage band and logic then pro tools and then um then i got too good at pro tools to do anything else you know like you know like i got too good at pro tools i'm like

8:46 Qu1tter Yeah.

8:46 Luke F. Walton sure and then yeah it's it's tough i mean that's been on my list is to get like good at ableton for a minute just especially for

8:53 Luke F. Walton um like writing quick writing sessions like quick production i feel like ableton and fruity loops have got just a different tier of like throw paint and just get something going um but then i'll like my plan is to get good at quick sessions over there and then be able to throw it into pro tools to you know and actually yeah get

9:12 Qu1tter yeah man i

9:13 Luke F. Walton more professional

9:13 Qu1tter remember when i moved out here and i saw people using fl and i was like these guys are

9:16 Luke F. Walton yeah

9:16 Qu1tter fast fast yeah i'm sick with it it's like everything happens because like doing doing stuff in like logic and just like more like band oriented stuff

9:26 Luke F. Walton Right.

9:26 Qu1tter it was like all right we're gonna take our time we're gonna get the sounds it's gonna be amazing right there but like these hip-hop guys are just like you know it's like if it's not done at five like it's not a good it can't be good it's impossible for it to be good and i'm like that's crazy i've never thought of it like that but

9:40 Luke F. Walton yeah no it's it is it's amazing and then but then you like you have the level of detail after the session that you can dive in and you perfect things meet the track like take the mc and then do stuff around it to make it feel more cohesive but yeah that initial idea to be able to not stop the creative flow of whatever artist you're working it with with uh

9:59 Qu1tter yeah

10:00 Luke F. Walton there's magic in the non-protool stuff for that because

10:03 Qu1tter totally

10:03 Luke F. Walton you

10:04 Qu1tter totally

10:04 Luke F. Walton know you know you know what it's like

10:06 Qu1tter i know it's like yeah so how long have you been doing music like what's your kind of i'm curious with you especially just like someone who does a podcast like i'm curious like because you probably know so much and have learned so much from talking to people and stuff like what's what's your kind of story yep

10:20 Luke F. Walton yeah so my my thing i started so i'm i'm san diego based um I started basically playing like blues, blues rock and then rock music and stuff in a bunch of garages and then eventually a bunch of churches like like their break rooms and stuff like that.

10:40 Qu1tter Yeah

10:40 Luke F. Walton That's kind of how I came up was breaking into these like rec rooms.

10:45 Qu1tter Um, Okay. and I eventually went to school. I went to USC, studied music. How great. My sister goes there.

10:50 Qu1tter Hey, cool. Cool. Yeah. I was in the pop music program. Yeah. Um, so I did that. And then, um, that was where I got into like playing bass and stuff. I studied with Patrice, Patrice Russian, who, um, it's awesome. And she taught me a lot about groove and stuff and then did, um, songwriting lessons with Lamont Dozier who taught me a lot about letting go.

11:09 Luke F. Walton and then from there just started touring playing playing guitar with different artists and then eventually my girlfriend moved back to San Diego and I saw it as an opportunity to come back like right before the pandemic and then the pandemic hit and then people got comfortable with working remote with mixing engineers and then I'll go up to LA a bunch and work with people and do stuff but most of my stuff now is like

11:34 Qu1tter you know hey can you lay down a guitar and then i'll lay down a guitar send it to them um that kind of thing yeah

11:38 Qu1tter World's changed hasn't it? man it really has and Yeah. it's great because now it's opened me up for like international stuff now that i'm really comfortable with my own rig in my own

11:48 Qu1tter place Yeah. it's easier to work with people That's good. It's good. yeah yeah so that's kind of my journey um yeah i'm a generalist you know that's my thing yeah

12:01 Qu1tter take some time go to the generalist yeah Yep. love

12:05 Luke F. Walton And

12:05 Qu1tter it

12:05 Luke F. Walton I totally get what you're saying too about like being able to wear a bunch of different, like double on all these different things.

12:13 Qu1tter because you do everything too don't

12:14 Luke F. Walton Yeah,

12:14 Qu1tter you you mix

12:15 Luke F. Walton yeah.

12:15 Qu1tter and you record and you play every instrument and sometimes

12:18 Luke F. Walton Not every

12:18 Qu1tter most

12:18 Luke F. Walton instrument, but thank

12:19 Qu1tter a lot of them a couple

12:20 Luke F. Walton you. I'm a very bad tenor saxophone player. very

12:23 Qu1tter I'm

12:24 Luke F. Walton cool

12:24 Qu1tter also I used to be a good tenor saxophone player when I was like in grade school and stuff but now I'm very bad tenor saxophone player

12:32 Luke F. Walton i i've been tempted to start my sets like my live music with just the worst sax solo than anyone's ever heard just lose the entire

12:39 Qu1tter power

12:39 Luke F. Walton audience yeah

12:40 Qu1tter move that's a power move you

12:41 Luke F. Walton exactly it's

12:42 Qu1tter gotta show them like this is what could be happening but it's not this

12:45 Luke F. Walton not

12:45 Qu1tter is not what it's gonna be Just kidding.

12:49 Luke F. Walton but yeah i mean like i love i love with with music now how you can

12:54 Qu1tter be like okay yeah you want a hi-hat part you just pull up a hi-hat play a little part and let it go you

12:58 Qu1tter Yeah, know that um that energy i think is really freeing versus the like band thing that we were talking about earlier of like i'll get everybody all locked and doing things there's an energy there too but i kind of like the free-flowing everybody just throwing paint at the wall um vibe the most yeah

13:15 Qu1tter it's good stuff so um how do you how do you usually approach beat making Like what where do you usually kind of find inspiration or are you looking at refs or you do

13:26 Qu1tter Yeah, you have a I bunch of samples? mean for me I mean it's like because I'm not like much of a drum guy or like a like an 808 guy like because I like I come from like bands and stuff

13:35 Qu1tter Yeah, right like rock right, music jazz right. music any music so like and I'm like a big guitar guy big piano guy so I always start with a loop some people start with like drum it goes everywhere some people sample stuff some people do whatever I always start with loops like I'll just sit around and be making guitar loops and bass loops and stuff and then I'll just get an eight bar thing 16 bar thing or just like a verse

13:55 Qu1tter reverse chorus idea and then just like put that in there and then either bring my buddies in or like other people i'll just bring them around sessions i'll send them around and be like yo have your guy put the drums on this because i like i don't trust myself to put good drums on it or like good bass i really when it comes to beat making i really really i'm a very collaborative person like i don't like i don't think i could ever make a number one record that's a beat by myself you know i think it's very like

14:24 Qu1tter i've been working with these guys these in this group called like split mind lately and then these young dudes like Yeah. they're all like they all they're just over 20 all of them they're like 21 22 type thing but they live in this house in beverly hills and like i don't know if it's beverly hills but it's somewhere over there and

14:39 Qu1tter Yeah. they're like they just they live in this house and they just make beats all day together and they sell them and they got they make hits and they've they've been making like dope records and stuff i'm just watching their process it's crazy because like they're so collaborative and they all have these ideas they're all jumping on i felt like different times and so that kind of taught me a lot about it just like seeing them because like when i just moved out here i was like you know it's like all right have your idea and make it happen but everyone's just like all right go go go like all right i'm jumping on now like let me let me structure this let me arrange this all right you

15:06 Qu1tter you get the 808 on there you get the synth on there so Yeah. like i'm very big about like i can make a simple loop i can make an eight bar guitar thing and then i'm gonna give that to someone else to put the synth on or someone else to do that on so that's really how i approach beats is like what can i make that's going to inspire somebody else to

15:23 Luke F. Walton yes

15:23 Qu1tter do something

15:24 Luke F. Walton yeah

15:24 Qu1tter even better

15:24 Luke F. Walton i

15:24 Qu1tter like that's everything

15:25 Luke F. Walton like that right

15:25 Qu1tter with beat making for me like it's not about like can i make the sickest fucking thing right now it's

15:30 Luke F. Walton yes

15:31 Qu1tter more about like what can i make that someone else is going to make even better yeah

15:34 Luke F. Walton yeah i love that i love that like

15:36 Qu1tter right

15:36 Luke F. Walton how can i pass this baton or how can i make something that's like worth it that'll draw something new out of somebody else where their strengths are at and i feel the same i feel the same way like people that are really good at 808 stuff are like rare like everybody thinks that they are but the

15:53 Qu1tter Yeah.

15:53 Luke F. Walton people that really really

15:53 Qu1tter Looks

15:54 Luke F. Walton good at

15:54 Qu1tter so easy.

15:54 Luke F. Walton them are not they make it look so easy it's

15:56 Qu1tter Yeah.

15:56 Luke F. Walton not i mean i'm not one of them that's part of the reason why i played bass like i learned bass because i realized my like aoa chops just kind of suck and synth bass is cool and i'm okay at it but like yeah just that's that's where i'm at so everybody's got their strengths yeah

16:13 Qu1tter Yeah, I don't know if that's not one of mine, but it's other people's so

16:16 Luke F. Walton yeah no exactly but identifying those people you know i think that that's that's a special thing and then being able to elevate in a way that you know maybe somebody would be looking on splice for a eight bar loop but then it'd be an eight bar loop that anybody else is used and or you know royalty weirdness it's like no right here this is this is Better stuff.

16:39 Qu1tter yeah man last year i mixed two records that had like were based on like the same like splice sample

16:43 Luke F. Walton Awesome.

16:43 Qu1tter loop one

16:44 Luke F. Walton Incredible.

16:44 Qu1tter of them was like a little bit higher level like label work one of them was like a total indie thing but the indie one came first and i was like oh this is a dope record and the label one came like you know a couple of like months later and i was like i was like i was like do you know like you know what's his name or whatever like have you heard this song before and i'm just like i did this record like

17:01 Qu1tter a while ago and they're like oh no like we made this one like like a couple weeks ago bro like this is brand new this is this is that new shit and i'm like Oh, I see what's going

17:11 Qu1tter yes on. You just went out of place and found the first thing and you were like, oh, whoa.

17:16 Luke F. Walton yeah yeah no and it's weird because it's like how does the youtube you know like youtube um it's got the sound id or whatever it's got that um attributes music so if you drop if you drop a thing and it's used in someone else's video you can get paid still through that ad revenue um what happens when there's two songs or 12 songs or 100 songs that all use the same same splice loop i don't

17:40 Qu1tter i

17:40 Luke F. Walton know what you

17:40 Qu1tter don't

17:40 Luke F. Walton mean

17:40 Qu1tter know man that's not that's not my line of work but like

17:42 Luke F. Walton yeah it's i know true right

17:43 Qu1tter it's such a it's such an interesting concept of like what like what do you do if every song just becomes the same song like like we're gonna get to a point in the future when like there's just one song that everyone's singing it's just the same exact thing

17:57 Luke F. Walton yeah that's that's it's incredibly dystopian um i i actually i i talked to somebody that um that sells uh his name is It was Dylan. I don't even remember his last name.

18:13 Luke F. Walton Yeah, Dylan Kidd, Dylan Kidd. He does that. That's how he makes his primary income is making guitars, specifically guitar loops, and putting them on supplies.

18:26 Qu1tter yeah yeah yeah it's a big it's a big thing it's a total big thing

18:29 Luke F. Walton Totally. My mastering engineer too, he was in a band called RKCB and they did a sample pack and he like hears commercials all the time. with little jingles and things that he put into the sample pack he's like man where's my money yeah sorry

18:46 Qu1tter In the wild.

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19:34 Luke F. Walton or your philosophy um what's

19:36 Qu1tter Okay.

19:36 Luke F. Walton can you talk about like a few different examples of maybe the different things that like somebody asks you to do like hey this this thing is like not even close to done can you mix it and really turn it or like hey this is stems or this is a two track and a vocal like make

19:52 Qu1tter Yeah.

19:52 Luke F. Walton it work can you talk the variety

19:54 Qu1tter I think, yeah, I mean, mixing is like... it's such a it's such a weird thing now

19:59 Luke F. Walton It

19:59 Qu1tter it is especially in these different spaces like i remember like i remember like mixing being like the biggest deal when i was doing like band stuff and like oh like this is like you know like you know we got this this guy and whatever but like with someone's hip-hop stuff it's just like yeah just kind of like throw a mix on there and then we'll give it to the mastering guy and whatever like or just whatever so like most of the time like it all kind of really does start for me if i'm working on a record from the beginning like because the way like i've been like i work is like

20:26 Qu1tter beat maker makes the beat and they send it to the like every A&R in their phone or like even like a couple A&Rs and then

20:32 Qu1tter Yeah. the A&R brings the artist and the A&R calls me he's like all right we're gonna cut vocals today so it's just two track in the pro tools like my template setup with like two track and then like all my like all my different like vocal things and chains and stuff and um but like it really does kind of all start there and even though it's just a two track like I'm thinking about like all right like

20:51 Qu1tter how do I want this vocal to sound I don't know because I try I think I try to think like a mixer because like that's

20:55 Luke F. Walton Yeah.

20:55 Qu1tter kind of like what I want to be for myself like I don't just try to think of like all right I'm just gonna get vocals like I try to think like all right how can I save myself the time like

21:03 Luke F. Walton Yes.

21:03 Qu1tter at the end of it like it's just like they can be like all right they can leave and be happy with it I don't have to ask them to be like

21:09 Qu1tter all right like you know like give me like ten minutes to do a quick rough mix or whatever because like so many times it's just people doing demos and they don't want to like i've noticed like something i've learned for sure is that like people just do demos and stuff and they just do like they do stuff really quickly and so they come in and they say like all right we're gonna do this track today and they do it and they like do a version of it and like we haven't comped it or anything and they're like all right well let's just do let's do another song because we want to save time really quick somebody send me another beat and then it's just

21:35 Qu1tter it's just like then we do three more songs and we haven't had time to like comp anything or look at anything it's

21:40 Luke F. Walton Yeah.

21:40 Qu1tter like i am constantly like in the moment if someone goes to the bathroom or like if someone if there's a break or something or someone gets a phone call like i'm constantly like all right i have to do everything i can to mix and while we're recording and stuff like if the if the writer needs to sit there and like you know like write something else or whatever like i'm i'm doing everything i can to like mix it into the beat and stuff um

22:03 Qu1tter so that's where it all starts it's it's really just about like getting the vocals to sit nice and just feel

22:07 Luke F. Walton Mm

22:07 Qu1tter like they belong

22:08 Luke F. Walton -hmm.

22:08 Qu1tter in the beat because there's so many like other engineers that like especially in like hip-hop and rap that like have their one fucking like waves chain Yeah, that like

22:17 Luke F. Walton right.

22:17 Qu1tter goes into like that sends into like three different vocal auxes and stuff that like they don't touch at all because it's their process and what they work but like my chain is like way simpler like it's got like a couple things that i know i want there on there for sure but like i'm constantly tweaking it and changing it and like it's not the same like i'll put different plugins on it if the beat calls for it because it's different beats every time like an afrobeat's chain is different than

22:39 Qu1tter i don't however change for sure

22:41 Luke F. Walton Okay.

22:41 Qu1tter or you know like travis chain like it's all different um but yeah so i'm constantly tweaking it like i guess that's kind of my philosophy is like i don't know less like less less for sure like do less stuff but just the right stuff like i'm always just trying to figure out like all right what do i like what plug-in or whatever do i like actually needs to be here instead of having like a million and being

23:02 Luke F. Walton like Right.

23:02 Qu1tter all right like this is the sound and i just got to make sure it's all there like because i because i want people to like respect me for like my sound is a big thing like i like being fast and i like people like hearing the record after they're done singing it being like okay it feels like it belongs in the record it feels like a rough right now so that's the start of it and then getting stems is a nightmare from beat makers and stuff like everybody goes

23:22 Qu1tter because not everyone knows how to do it and not like some people will just send you the session and be like oh yeah here you go and then i got like i've learned how to get stems out of ableton and i felt like i don't know how to use them

23:31 Luke F. Walton Yes,

23:31 Qu1tter or like totally. work

23:32 Luke F. Walton It's

23:32 Qu1tter in them but

23:32 Luke F. Walton the same.

23:32 Qu1tter like i've learned how to be like all right this is how i bounce stuff out or this is how i like print the files and stuff because it's so like nobody knows how to do it right or like unprocessed processed dry like making sure everything matches um so it's tough but it's good when you get people that like producers that really know what they're doing and understand like and like all right mixing requires like yeah

23:52 Luke F. Walton Yes.

23:53 Qu1tter this is how it should be labeled this is how it should go in but yeah i mean really the way that it goes for me is like especially the hip-hop stuff it's like you know people just want the low end to make them move so it's a lot of low-end work a lot of just clean low-end good hard hitting low-end you know all over the place and um

24:11 Qu1tter loudness being careful with like not you know making anything too loud or too quiet especially because the things are too quiet that's how you lose work in hip-hop and stuff like that's that's

24:21 Luke F. Walton that's Yeah.

24:21 Qu1tter how you make enemies and make people hate you but yeah I don't know I kind of went off on a big tangent there

24:28 Luke F. Walton No,

24:29 Qu1tter just kind

24:29 Luke F. Walton it's

24:29 Qu1tter of

24:29 Luke F. Walton good.

24:29 Qu1tter complaining about like stems and producers and stuff but um

24:32 Luke F. Walton No,

24:33 Qu1tter it's that's

24:34 Luke F. Walton real.

24:34 Qu1tter really what it is it's just like just control and just a lot of control it's a lot like I'm very when I'm actually like mixing mixing instead of just like cutting and rough mixing or whatever like when I'm mixing mixing I'm very particular with clip gain and nudging and phase relationships and stuff like

24:51 Qu1tter um even though in like in hip-hop it's not too much a big deal because like you're not using like drums with like mics

24:56 Luke F. Walton Right. Millions

24:57 Qu1tter and

24:57 Luke F. Walton of

24:57 Qu1tter like you have to worry about like all these phase things with them but

25:00 Luke F. Walton Yeah.

25:00 Qu1tter um like with low end and stuff like 808s and kicks like that that low end stuff of course like has weird phase things and I think that's like the one that's like the one like trick that I use I don't use very many like tricks like some people were like oh like my drums have eight me plugging things on whatever

25:18 Luke F. Walton Mm

25:18 Qu1tter and

25:19 Luke F. Walton -hmm.

25:19 Qu1tter it works every time and that's my how I do my drums it's just like I don't use very many tricks like that I'm very like iEQ I'll compress a little bit but like I'm very kind of like standard in that but not like saturating stuff too especially

25:33 Luke F. Walton yeah

25:33 Qu1tter because like that's that's just the hip-hop sound now like like you listen to like these Travis records coming out it's like that even like the Offset record or the Metro record like it's just the vocals are so like saturated and crispy but that's what they want they want it just to be like cutting through like a dagger you know so that's a lot of that stuff a lot of like you know

25:53 Qu1tter saturated vocals and just yeah like tight boomy low end and uh yeah you know you know that give

26:02 Luke F. Walton i know the vibes but i i like i like hearing it i like hearing everybody's perspective because yeah for sure there's some people that are very templated like this is this is my thing other i'm i'm more on the side of yeah what is the track telling me that it needs or like how do we want to have the vocal interact with it i've been learning some like little tricks that i don't know i'd love to hear about your trick i'll i'll give you one maybe

26:22 Qu1tter me some tricks yeah Yeah.

26:22 Luke F. Walton um so uh side chaining soothe um

26:25 Qu1tter Yes.

26:25 Luke F. Walton is is with the like as a as a bass kick

26:30 Qu1tter Yeah,

26:30 Luke F. Walton uh

26:30 Qu1tter I do that from

26:31 Luke F. Walton such a cool

26:31 Qu1tter time to time too,

26:32 Luke F. Walton cool

26:32 Qu1tter for sure.

26:32 Luke F. Walton just

26:32 Qu1tter Yeah,

26:33 Luke F. Walton started

26:33 Qu1tter that's a trick.

26:33 Luke F. Walton doing it and it's it's really cool it's not every not definitely not every session kind of thing but every once in a while it's like that's exactly what i needed it's not necessarily so i gotta explain this listeners are probably going to be like yeah you just said a bunch of uh like plug-in names and then we just nodded yes yes um okay so soothe is a resonance uh like dynamic resonance tool so everything that

26:56 Luke F. Walton that we do and play and say has got these little resonances these little pokey frequencies and soothe tries to dynamically remove some of those so that it smooths out the audio is that decent explanation guess of what it is side chaining is when you have instead of it reacting to the main source of audio you're having it react to a different source of audio so in this example the resonances of the kick drum are powering the soothe plugin on on top of a bass

27:22 Luke F. Walton bass uh bass guitar 808 or whatever and it's taking the resonances of the kick drum and dipping them in the bass so that those resonances are actually accentuated in the kick drum without having to turn them up and then whenever the kick decays and goes away it releases that and then those resonances can come back up in the bass so it's kind of like a dynamic eq dance rather than compression which is just like kind of volume dips

27:49 Luke F. Walton That's, this is a little more specific.

27:51 Qu1tter yeah

27:51 Luke F. Walton So

27:52 Qu1tter i

27:52 Luke F. Walton that's

27:52 Qu1tter would say

27:52 Luke F. Walton what I

27:52 Qu1tter what i'm and

27:53 Luke F. Walton missed.

27:53 Qu1tter part of my template part of my vocal template especially for recording it's like that except i use a you know the um what's it called the waves factory um the it's the same it's the same thing as soothe it's

28:07 Luke F. Walton Oh yeah.

28:07 Qu1tter um i like it up i can't remember

28:12 Luke F. Walton I

28:13 Qu1tter i

28:13 Luke F. Walton like Waves Factory.

28:14 Qu1tter love waves factory

28:15 Luke F. Walton Spectre.

28:15 Qu1tter i use not backspace backspace i use on vocals um it's um it's in my template too but it's the other one um track spacer

28:22 Luke F. Walton Track

28:22 Qu1tter track spacer

28:23 Luke F. Walton spacer.

28:23 Qu1tter it's

28:23 Luke F. Walton Yeah, I use track spacer too.

28:24 Qu1tter i

28:24 Luke F. Walton Track spacer.

28:25 Qu1tter so like i it's part of my vocal recording template so yeah i have it on everything but it's just like i've got like my two track at the top and then like on that there's a there's a track spacer on it at all times um and so my like vocal my like vocal aux my vocal bus whatever like that like it has a scent on it called track spacer that

28:45 Luke F. Walton Yeah.

28:45 Qu1tter sends it to the to the to the track spacer and the beat and so like it's always and i just set it at like 15 20 with

28:52 Luke F. Walton Yeah.

28:53 Qu1tter something like that and it's like it does the same thing it's just like in the beat that they send me because the beat is just a beat there's no vocals on it

29:00 Luke F. Walton And

29:00 Qu1tter or whatever and

29:00 Luke F. Walton like

29:00 Qu1tter it's like yeah

29:01 Luke F. Walton as as as crunchy and squishy sometimes

29:03 Qu1tter yeah

29:04 Luke F. Walton they can be where it's just like there's

29:05 Qu1tter and

29:05 Luke F. Walton no room

29:05 Qu1tter especially if

29:06 Luke F. Walton in that.

29:06 Qu1tter you get these fl beats and stuff like they got that like that like fruity loops limiter which is sick but

29:09 Luke F. Walton Yeah.

29:10 Qu1tter like it it really it really does compact it like that in that mid-range to really just get tight in there so like i and it's always the vocals are always going through that track spacer and it's always pulling out a little bit of those frequencies like the main like and i have like what's cool about track spacer too is it's got like it's i mean it's the same thing as suits like you could use soothe but i like the track spacer like i just like how you sound

29:30 Luke F. Walton Trackspace

29:30 Qu1tter because it's

29:31 Luke F. Walton is a bit more like aggressive too.

29:32 Qu1tter it is a little bit more aggressive and it doesn't does this thing and it works really well for like beats and stuff

29:36 Luke F. Walton Agreed. Totally.

29:37 Qu1tter um and like just instrumental buses or whatever like i'll use it on just regular mixes too but

29:41 Luke F. Walton Yep. Yep.

29:42 Qu1tter like it's it's so easy to use and it's got like the filters on it that you can just like

29:46 Luke F. Walton Yes. The high end and the low end. So you

29:47 Qu1tter yeah

29:47 Luke F. Walton can you

29:47 Qu1tter so you

29:48 Luke F. Walton can tighten

29:48 Qu1tter can like

29:48 Luke F. Walton that up.

29:48 Qu1tter i don't like i like to i like to keep the like the high filter or like the like

29:53 Luke F. Walton The

29:53 Qu1tter a low

29:53 Luke F. Walton night

29:53 Qu1tter pass filter i guess like i keep that like at like 5k 6k or something like that like someone like the se like

30:00 Luke F. Walton Yeah,

30:00 Qu1tter breakfast can get lost in the hi-hats of the beat or whatever and then i'll keep it like the the high pass filter on it um like i'll put that at whatever like 200 300 so like some of the voice muddiness can get lost in the like

30:11 Luke F. Walton perfect

30:11 Qu1tter the you know like the low end of the beat or like the synths or whatever in the beat but then like the mid-range from like whatever like 400 did 3k or whatever of the vocals like that's all like

30:20 Qu1tter it's like it's taking a little bit out of the beat and like making a little bit of space in the beat for it and it's just like it helps so much and it saves me so much work and it's because then i don't have to like spend time like really eqing stuff and like thinking about like all right can i do try throwing ozone on the beat right now real

30:35 Luke F. Walton right

30:35 Qu1tter quick and just like do some stuff to it

30:37 Luke F. Walton and all that processing power and the craziness

30:39 Qu1tter yeah yeah and it's such it's such a thing because you have to wait until you're done recording because like it you're going to get all this latency and stuff like you have to wait and then you don't have time to do it but like it's so easy and it's just it's it's for sure a trick like a soothe trick with the bass and stuff like it's that that's that's a little hack like

30:54 Luke F. Walton that

30:54 Qu1tter i

30:55 Luke F. Walton is a

30:55 Qu1tter don't

30:55 Luke F. Walton little like hack

30:55 Qu1tter to admit it but like it's it's a little hack you know it's a little one

30:58 Luke F. Walton yeah exactly and these are things that yeah you can't you can't get around using stock plugins and stuff like that it just saves you so much time and it also has its own sound and it's kind of everywhere now so grabbing a little bit of that especially like you know all of these things where i'll have an artist that like loves this part and loves this part and it's like

31:14 Luke F. Walton like these parts want the exact same space so it's like let's talk to each other let's let's use track spacer is a perfect example of like something that like really does not they don't want to coexist track spacer can allow you to have them push kind of push each other out of the way and then i also really like golfos i learned that from uh luke moment uh uh putting that on the master because in that kind of like so you have these two things that are fighting with each other with track spacer so they're kind of like crowding each other out and then the golfos

31:41 Luke F. Walton us can create room for both of them on

31:43 Qu1tter right

31:43 Luke F. Walton that on that master bus so it's like kind of this beautiful all of these resonance filters and things that are all talking to each other and sidechain to each other um can all kind of like come together with this gulf it's just a very different way of thinking about mixing than like five six years ago even you

31:59 Qu1tter yeah yeah

31:59 Luke F. Walton know

31:59 Qu1tter it's so different yeah

32:01 Luke F. Walton but i like it it feels more like music because like i don't know when i'm like if i'm playing with somebody right like we're kind of fighting with each other but there's a give and take there's like a dance dynamically of like hey there's a bass solo i'm tucking back like i'm i'm tightening up my part but then like i want to stretch out a little bit and these plugins kind of like let you do that dance inside of the

32:20 Qu1tter DAW yeah for sure it's it is amazing like it is really amazing the way it does it i've been using two like another wave factory one that's kind of newer but it's like gold floss but like the equalizer one run or

32:29 Luke F. Walton Oh yeah,

32:30 Qu1tter like

32:30 Luke F. Walton yeah.

32:30 Qu1tter have it i have it on like instead of gofox sometimes like especially my recording template like i'll just have it i'll throw it on just like the master of the whole thing

32:38 Luke F. Walton Cool.

32:38 Qu1tter just because like it's it's got a setting on it called gentle that

32:41 Luke F. Walton Gentle

32:42 Qu1tter like

32:42 Luke F. Walton thud.

32:42 Qu1tter i tweak it a little bit too so like you know like with the attack and release like the cut thing but like it just like it does a little bit to like even out just like all the frequencies at the end of it to like make it sound a little bit more like done and a little bit more polished and it's just like again it's just another one of those things where it's like if i'm recording like last night if i'm like doing a thing even in like

33:02 Qu1tter logic or whatever so like it's just someone else's session and they're they're not an engineer or whatever so they don't have a template it's just a bunch of tracks and a bunch of shit everywhere that i spent like i spent like fifth like because i was cutting with the girl and she like cut the vocal and she's like all right do a quick comp i'm gonna go down and talk to him real quick and then so they're down there for 15 minutes talking whatever and i'm in there like going through this whole session that somebody just sent me like finding things and like trying to like you know like eq stuff really quick and make it sound a bit better but like

33:29 Qu1tter at the end of the day like i know i know golf class got me i know i

33:32 Luke F. Walton Yeah.

33:32 Qu1tter know equalizer like

33:33 Luke F. Walton Yeah.

33:33 Qu1tter got me with that little like that little bit of polish that like just like makes you know makes it sound a little bit more just like done and a little bit more like you know as a thing so

33:43 Luke F. Walton Like

33:43 Qu1tter there's

33:43 Luke F. Walton yeah,

33:43 Qu1tter stuff like that though he's like it's really nice gold fossils like i'm so glad it exists you

33:47 Luke F. Walton me

33:47 Qu1tter know because it

33:47 Luke F. Walton too.

33:47 Qu1tter helps my life it

33:49 Luke F. Walton Agreed.

33:49 Qu1tter really does yeah

33:50 Luke F. Walton Agreed. Hey everybody, Scoobert Doobert here. I'm excited to announce my new record, I, as in the letter I. It is available on all streaming platforms now, as well as on Bandcamp with high-res dot wave files. So usually you hear the compressed MP3s or things through the streaming services, these dot wave files, they sound the best. The best. They absolutely do. It is science.

34:12 Luke F. Walton I'm actually going to be posting a blog article about why waves sound better than MP3s and that leads me to my next topic. I started a blog and we are pressing vinyl.

34:21 Luke F. Walton So whoever is subscribed to the blog is going to get first dibs on the limited edition vinyls. We're talking like some super, super limited edition. I think they're only doing like 10 or 15 of the top shelf stuff and then there will be other really cool colorways as well. All but the whole vinyl run is not that big because I'm not that big. You know, hopefully someday we'll be able to press more.

34:40 Luke F. Walton But until then, you got to jump on it now. So join the blog, join that mailing list. It's all free.

34:46 Luke F. Walton dual component so for example i just did a pod not too long ago on musical notation throughout the history be kind of cool to see like what it actually looks like throughout history right and that's that's what the blog's here for it'll hit your emails just like every tuesday morning is kind of what we're looking at and it'll just be a nice extra little way to love music more expand the understanding from the podcast and also hook you up with some exclusive perks like

35:25 Luke F. Walton first dibs on vinyl records so anyway check out the new music hopefully subscribe to that sub stack you'll find the link in my show notes or you could go to love music more dot sub stack dot com to sign up today and we'll uh we'll send you some emails

35:42 Luke F. Walton so enjoy the music and enjoy the rest of the episode i actually used it as a um effect on a like a kind of hyper pop thing that i was working on um

35:50 Qu1tter Oh, yeah.

35:50 Luke F. Walton there was this one section that felt like the world was ending and it was like massive craziness that goes to like a very intimate thing at the end and i actually cranked golfost like 200 so it like did this weird like like varble uh resonance filtery kind of thing

36:08 Qu1tter it's

36:08 Luke F. Walton It's so

36:09 Qu1tter so

36:09 Luke F. Walton cool.

36:09 Qu1tter dope though it's such a sick thing it's

36:10 Luke F. Walton It

36:11 Qu1tter like you can

36:11 Luke F. Walton is.

36:11 Qu1tter use it for that too i

36:12 Luke F. Walton Yeah,

36:12 Qu1tter saw someone somebody sent me this video one time this guy who was like doing a mix online or whatever doing like a twitch stream or something and like he had golf balls on his master bus or whatever but like for some reason it was set to like something like that some crazy number so he's like mixing he's like man this session they sent me fucking awful like he saw this shit is eq'd so much and like he like spent like hours like fucking like eqing stuff and like dynamics stuff and then like at the end of it

36:34 Qu1tter anyway he like he's just someone asked him like so like like what's your what's your what are your master bus settings he's going through well i have an ozone doing this and i have a fire the clip that just does a little bit for that sound and then i have this golf this goal and then he looked at it and saw he's like he's like oh my god i was like bro you just got like you gotta you gotta give that you just gotta like send like a session to somebody else at this point

36:57 Luke F. Walton yeah

36:57 Qu1tter like you

36:57 Luke F. Walton exactly you've broken it

36:58 Qu1tter god didn't want you to have that one like you

37:02 Luke F. Walton yeah

37:02 Qu1tter gotta you gotta

37:02 Luke F. Walton man

37:02 Qu1tter move on

37:03 Luke F. Walton if i was if i was coming up doing twitch mixing sessions i would have had so many embarrassing moments like like tweaking something for like 15 minutes like probably even longer like who am i kidding um i was i was trash like 45 minutes and then being like oh it's it's been bypassed the whole time you know like not

37:22 Qu1tter yeah and stuff like that oh yeah me

37:24 Luke F. Walton really

37:24 Qu1tter too

37:24 Luke F. Walton trust in my ears like this is great it's

37:26 Qu1tter yeah yeah me too i mean i just like i know it's tough even like yesterday because like i don't usually work in labs because i thought i was like doing stuff like in the session like with people and with like big big names in the room and stuff i thought i was like really doing stuff on like the vocal aux or whatever but it was really just a track that had absolutely nothing on it

37:44 Qu1tter and i'm just sitting there like hold on let me do like let me let me fix something real quick everybody like don't you worry like just sit tight for a second i'm on there just doing absolutely nothing but it's funny because i've used that to my advantage too like when i first got out here and i'm working

37:56 Qu1tter and i'm working with these rappers and stuff and like especially like the rap anrs and the rap managers like they don't hear stuff online or they'll see someone will send them a video of something and they'll be like oh bro can you do this like can you add this this the the cla vox on it can you put that cla vocal on that and i'm just like

38:13 Qu1tter yeah one second i'll just open up like a like a note document and start typing a bunch of random shit and then like go back to the session i'll be like all right how's this and i'll hit play and i'll just turn the whole song like i'll go the volume knob on like the monitor or whatever turn it up just like a tiny bit like like the thing that's barely like half a decibel or something he can't even tell and they're like yeah you hear that sounds bro you know i got that ear bro like you know like i've been in this game too long like i know how it works and i'm like yeah but i really did absolutely nothing

38:42 Qu1tter nothing

38:42 Luke F. Walton nothing

38:42 Qu1tter they're just happy with themselves and yeah so many times i do so much stuff like that like people be like all right make the vocal sit on top of the beat a little bit i'm like all right and i just turn the song up a little bit and they're like you see what i'm saying you see what i'm saying like that's you know there you go and i'm like yeah but i just didn't actually do anything because i'm lazy yeah

38:59 Luke F. Walton well sometimes that's that's part of the job you know and

39:02 Qu1tter no it really is just gotta know how to play the game a little bit

39:05 Luke F. Walton it's it really is every genre because like uh i remember um um sufjan stevens had a there was like a video of one of his engineers and he was like i want to hit the whole thing to tape

39:15 Luke F. Walton and then his mastering engineer is like there you go what do you think and like the tape machine's rolling all this kind of stuff but it's on the throughput it's not running through the tape whatsoever and he's like oh that's it it's perfect you know it's it's just such a classic like you see you see the thing turning around you go it's got more vibe now when it's just your head it's just your eyes not your ears you

39:37 Qu1tter yeah playing plays

39:38 Luke F. Walton know yeah

39:38 Qu1tter funny tricks on you yeah it's

39:40 Luke F. Walton it does it

39:40 Qu1tter fun it's

39:41 Luke F. Walton does it

39:41 Qu1tter fun that's

39:42 Luke F. Walton is

39:42 Qu1tter it's the fun part of the job one of the fun parts of the job is and then i'm like yo like okay what'd you think about this and they're like yeah just like yeah i just didn't do anything like i've just been sitting here like like i finished i've like did all i can do like like

39:55 Luke F. Walton yeah this is as good as it's gonna get yeah

39:57 Qu1tter i'm not gonna do anymore yeah so it's good crazy

40:02 Luke F. Walton no

40:03 Qu1tter so what kind of what kind of stuff you've been listening to lately just in the wild

40:07 Luke F. Walton um so actually yeah that uh that tyler record i've i've really really been into there's also um

40:14 Luke F. Walton ray um i think is her name uh is that it i was just listening to that last r-a-y-r-a-y-e um yeah she just they just released a song called my 21st century or an album called my 21st century blues um and it's incredibly clean

40:37 Qu1tter Did

40:37 Luke F. Walton like

40:37 Qu1tter she do that song with Shake, that Escapism song?

40:41 Luke F. Walton yep

40:41 Qu1tter that's

40:41 Luke F. Walton yep

40:41 Qu1tter what we're talking about okay yeah yeah right yeah yeah that's good record yeah

40:45 Luke F. Walton yeah it uh it's it's it's really it's fun because it's not at all it's like almost the opposite of what i've been doing where i'm like really heavy into like saturation and dirt and present present but like different and then this was like hi-fi like pristine minimal and the vocal is just like dry and way

41:07 Qu1tter Right.

41:07 Luke F. Walton forward and i was like i kind of want to make something like that now that was one of those records is like all right uh you know you you run into some stuff and you go okay that's the exact opposite of what i'm doing but now i want to do that um yeah there's a there's also an artist named um or group called athletic progression um that i definitely recommend some really cool like instrumentals and

41:31 Luke F. Walton and grooves um that i'm i'm into and i'm i'm excited to like it's it's got like a little bit of like a jazz um jazz funk thing to it but also hip-hop um that's kind of like the stuff that i want to make after this record that i'm doing right now i'm doing more like acoustic-y my folkier kind of record and then i'm going to follow it up with more like modern um but that that kind of music um that athletic progression and

41:57 Luke F. Walton um like that that whole kind of thing i'm just jungle and stuff like i'm really into uh to what everybody's doing right now i think music sounds really good it's crazy um

42:10 Qu1tter yeah oh

42:11 Luke F. Walton what about you what are you what have you been listening to yeah

42:14 Qu1tter man i don't even know um this new this song came out today matt champion

42:19 Luke F. Walton cool

42:20 Qu1tter he's the guy from brockhampton and uh he's on you

42:23 Luke F. Walton Nice.

42:23 Qu1tter know doosan absolutely

42:24 Luke F. Walton I love Dijon.

42:25 Qu1tter they just amazing i love doosan and doosan's a guitar player just dropping albums too i'm a geek guy he's

42:30 Luke F. Walton Yeah, McGee.

42:31 Qu1tter dope

42:31 Luke F. Walton Yeah,

42:31 Qu1tter yeah

42:32 Luke F. Walton McGee's really dope. The stuff that he's doing with his guitar, like using the little mixing board thing as his amp, the baritone guitar and yeah,

42:43 Qu1tter it's it's so dope his sound is so sick

42:46 Luke F. Walton I agree.

42:46 Qu1tter i don't know i don't know what else i'm listening to i've just kind of been bouncing around a lot

42:49 Luke F. Walton Yeah.

42:50 Qu1tter just

42:50 Luke F. Walton Yeah.

42:50 Qu1tter you know doing the thing i was listening to

42:53 Luke F. Walton some Nice.

42:53 Qu1tter listen to a bunch of rihanna lately too because she's you know doing the thing and uh yeah

42:59 Luke F. Walton She's awesome.

43:00 Qu1tter i don't know you know that kind of stuff i crazy i got into a little bit of like a dave matthews band stint

43:06 Luke F. Walton Cool.

43:06 Qu1tter for a second just randomly and i was like this is so dope but like the thing about those songs is like those are like like

43:14 Qu1tter like that that one record i forget what it's called but like it's got that like dreaming tree song on it or whatever like it's and like the stone on it and like the mixes on that record are so sick

43:25 Luke F. Walton yeah

43:25 Qu1tter like the guitars sound so amazing on that record i've been chasing that guitar sound for my whole life it's like it's

43:31 Luke F. Walton love it right

43:32 Qu1tter crazy and it's dave matthews band which is so silly

43:34 Luke F. Walton yeah

43:34 Qu1tter but you know

43:35 Luke F. Walton that that's that's you know that's the beauty i feel like is i'm not gonna shade you you could you could be like i don't know whatever art girl like i'm there there's we don't i feel like we've broken down some of those things of like oh you're not allowed to listen to that or you're not allowed to draw influence from that um i

43:55 Qu1tter i

43:55 Luke F. Walton mean i've

43:56 Qu1tter mean that's

43:56 Luke F. Walton i

43:56 Qu1tter hard you know like

43:57 Luke F. Walton was just

43:57 Qu1tter you

43:57 Luke F. Walton can yeah

43:57 Qu1tter make good songs basically

43:58 Luke F. Walton right and i'm like listening to like mf doom um the mad villainy record just revisiting that and being like this this could be released next year it's that modern sounding but like all of the choices of samples and stuff it's like i mean even um like wu-tang like it's

44:15 Qu1tter Yeah.

44:16 Luke F. Walton like oh it's like sample uh children's cartoons and i don't know and make yeah them incredible

44:21 Qu1tter no insane really i

44:23 Luke F. Walton so um another

44:25 Qu1tter like good shit no

44:26 Luke F. Walton shout out to big thief um that the last big thief record i wouldn't be making the record that i am right now if it were not

44:33 Qu1tter no

44:33 Luke F. Walton for them

44:34 Qu1tter that was that was good i remember when that record came out and i was like

44:39 Luke F. Walton yeah i know yeah

44:40 Qu1tter i had so many conversations with like friends and stuff about it just like talking about it being like that's right here you

44:48 Luke F. Walton Uh

44:48 Qu1tter just and

44:49 Luke F. Walton -huh.

44:49 Qu1tter like reading about it like techniques and stuff they're using for recording and i'm just stop

44:54 Luke F. Walton Right. No, I love it. I love that the I don't know, I think that it's great to be in a time that we we can simultaneously have both kind of tracks of the quick, the two track, the track spacers, all of that, and then also the super inventive and like old schools, recording techniques pushed to the brink and then wrapped back into the digital.

45:16 Luke F. Walton Having a foot in both worlds is the place that I want to be just because it's, it's too fun. Both of them are too fun. I don't want to be like I like this or I like that. that or you're not cool if you do this they're both so cool and the tools are so cool um yeah yes

45:31 Qu1tter well i mean like you hear those beyonce songs that just came out you hear 16 carriages bro it's insane it's a country song but like it's such a good song too and it's it's funny because i've been saying this for a while so i was like you know like listening to like listening to williams and tammy wynette stuff like if if some of these modern girlies like just got a little bit of that magic you know every now and then or just for a couple songs like

45:54 Qu1tter and go stupid and go crazy and look at that look what Beyonce did during the Super Bowl like

45:58 Luke F. Walton Yeah.

45:58 Qu1tter 16 carriages is like the best song I've heard in a long time it's so good and she just did it just to do it and I'm like there you go queen like there you go there you go Beyonce get some get some country get some country and show them that

46:15 Qu1tter yes we can you know Yep. it can happen so and i'm really stoked about that because it's like getting people talking like even just like you know i'm kicking it with people yesterday and like central c and stuff and central c is like a drill rapper and stuff and like they were talking about it like yo the country record went hard like it sounds so amazing it's just like making people talk about it

46:34 Luke F. Walton Yeah.

46:35 Qu1tter which is good and that's better for like me and then just like other like people like you know like we're just saying you too because like all right well you have a foot in both worlds so like if people want to start doing this like more real sounding records older sounding records that you know have guitars on them and like you know and that like sound just like someone's playing them and you know like sound like it's a it's you know it's all happening in the room and not just on the computer like

46:59 Qu1tter it's perfect for people like you and me

47:02 Luke F. Walton yeah

47:02 Qu1tter who like love both of it and try to stay in both worlds and stuff like

47:05 Luke F. Walton exactly and but we we because we're in the other world we can make it not just sound like a throwback record like because i don't want to do that either i don't want to just be like oh this could have been released in 1969 it's like i don't care like that would suck i don't want it's not 1969 like that's forever ago like i want to take i want to take the best of it like almost like nostalgia

47:25 Luke F. Walton you know like you kind of get the sheen of what the colors and stuff of childhood look like and it's not accurate but that's the version that I want to capture from and draw from to make the modern record is the best of yeah

47:40 Qu1tter Yeah, crazy, crazy,

47:42 Luke F. Walton yeah

47:42 Qu1tter yeah, I feel it, I feel it.

47:45 Luke F. Walton Yeah.

47:46 Qu1tter Good So stuff.

47:46 Luke F. Walton I want to ask you one last question. This is how I always like to end this show. So the show's called Love Music More, and this little segment's called Love Music Why. And so I want to ask you, why do you wake up every morning and say, I'm going to answer that text. I'm going to go to that studio. I'm going to make this happen. I'm giving everything I have to music. Why do you do it?

48:09 Qu1tter that's uh i mean we're getting deep here

48:11 Luke F. Walton Yeah.

48:11 Qu1tter scoop it's

48:11 Luke F. Walton Deep questions.

48:11 Qu1tter like there's no like

48:13 Luke F. Walton There's no like as they would say.

48:15 Qu1tter um i um man that's a good question i don't really know it's like it's just it's just what i do i get i don't really i just don't want to do anything else i really don't like Um, and also I think I'm good at it. And I think that, um, I'm just not there yet.

48:32 Qu1tter Really what it is is like, I remember when I was before I got kicked out of audio school, I was, um, i was like i would ask like the teachers and stuff i'd be like what was the moment because like they talk big game about like oh i did a record back in the day i did a record with bone thugs and harmony or like i've worked with my first session when i was an intern with miley cyrus came or whatever demi lovato it's just like i was like so like when was like the moment when you were like

48:59 Qu1tter like um when you were like driving home from the session or whatever like you like you got home or whatever and you're just like holy shit i'm doing it i'm doing everything i wanted but what they're like oh i mean it still hasn't happened yet because like you know we're all as musicians we're always craving more we always want more and i'm like all right like that's a good answer i guess but i remember i was working with like in the early days like i just moved out here and i was you know still just a kid and like i was working with um

49:26 Qu1tter London on Da Track and um my Sean my Sean's like this amazing singer vocal producer you know so he's like an actor like acted in a bunch of shows but he's worked with everybody like you know he's he's big up in the industry and like there's like you know

49:41 Qu1tter someone to someone asked me a question about like so like where are you from or something and like that usually that didn't happen because like when I first got out here especially these rap sessions like I was just you know little white boy like let me tell you something let me this is just a message to to young engineers out there like

49:57 Qu1tter it's hard to get a lean stain out of a white t-shirt it's hard to get that out of there because if people

50:03 Luke F. Walton that's

50:04 Qu1tter like

50:04 Luke F. Walton not what i thought you were gonna say

50:05 Qu1tter now listen i'm just trying it's just some advice like if you're going to a rap session and you like you kind of get the vibe like i do your research a little bit if you think they may be drinking lean or whatever like

50:15 Qu1tter where's where purple where's my clothes he's like he's like because like it's like you know it's not like you know i'd do sessions where people would like because it was for a while it was tough because like you know just like they don't respect you as like an engineer and they like people be like yelling at you and cussing you out and throwing stuff at you and like granted like i was younger and i wasn't like as like fast as i was like i was fine but like i wasn't like as i am now where it's just kind of like second nature for me i was still kind of like you know i just moved here

50:43 Qu1tter here they started working rap and like it was so totally different but like you know it's it's tough and it wears on you a little bit and you're just like man these people really don't like me and they hate me and they throw lean bottles at me and stuff and they throw lean on me like it's not nice but um you get through that i remember i was doing a session with one of my songs somebody asked me so like where are you from whatever i was like oh like me like you don't talk to me like yeah i'm from cleveland or whatever like i moved here like i've graduated high school i moved here and they're like how long you graduate i was like well

51:11 Qu1tter well i'm 19 so like a couple months ago like last year and then they're just like they're just like that's crazy and then so like someone i forget if it was like london or my son or someone was just like oh so like you're like kobe like you just went straight from the high school to the league bro it's just like when you say it like that like

51:29 Luke F. Walton Yeah,

51:30 Qu1tter that

51:30 Luke F. Walton yeah,

51:30 Qu1tter that makes

51:31 Luke F. Walton yeah, yeah,

51:31 Qu1tter me that makes that it feels good like now he's like bronc he's from cleveland so he's straight from there all right well like bronze james is the king so like i'll take that compliment any day and it really just made me like i was driving home that day and like that feeling of like these like people who like have made this music that i've loved for like my whole life and just like you know they say something like something like one of those good moments i feel like all the bad ones like every now and then like for every bad session you have or like

51:56 Qu1tter ever like every just like mediocre session where it's like hey nothing really happens like you know you do a song and the artist isn't feeling it or like just wasn't working like there's one session like that that is like so amazing and like driving home from there I was like that was my moment where I was like holy shit I'm doing it I'm doing it like windows down like bumping the tunes just like bumping the bounces that I made like being like this is sick and like driving home and like so I mean I guess it's just like feelings like that where it's like all right

52:23 Qu1tter the more bad sessions I do and the more sessions I do just in general or mixes or whatever like the more feelings I'm gonna get like that where I'm just like I'm doing exactly what I said I wanted to be doing I'm doing what I didn't think I could be doing so that's really what it is it's just like these those little moments where like someone appreciates you or like you do something that is just like so cool and just kind of happens randomly like like every night like every every time I get discouraged I'm like all right

52:48 Qu1tter you know one of those moments like it's it's a moment it's it's

52:51 Luke F. Walton Yeah.

52:51 Qu1tter it's 30 seconds like it's 20 it's a 15 second moment that like makes you feel so great and like for all the like hours of like you know whatever editing and comping and melody dining and like just like stupid shit that i gotta put up with like i can live for those moments that are just so sick so that's really what it is for me it's just like you know and eventually those moments are going to turn into minutes and those minutes are going to turn into

53:14 Qu1tter and hours and weeks years whatever like of just like you know good stuff happening so you know i kind of say like fuck those teachers man like they're talking about like oh like i don't i don't even feel like i'm not there yet like like you're always gonna want more and it's true but like at the same time it's just like i'm gonna take whatever i can get you know like i'm gonna take them being like tell me i'm like kobe like that's crazy it's just like a kid and just like an engineer i'm not even doing anything crazy i'm just recording people like

53:41 Qu1tter like

53:41 Luke F. Walton Mm

53:41 Qu1tter and

53:42 Luke F. Walton hmm.

53:42 Qu1tter they're like oh like they're giving me props like that so they're nice guys but that's really what it is that's why i love that's why i love doing it it's because it's like music is sick in general right it's music who doesn't want to do it like it's you know so that's really what it is it's amazing i love we love music we do it's Scoobert Doobert and i we love the music we do

54:02 Luke F. Walton Yes, sir. I love that. And I also love, you know, teachers are an interesting interesting

54:08 Qu1tter right

54:09 Luke F. Walton thing because obviously there you got some good ones you got some bad ones but it the yeah the the college level like music teacher um the ones that aren't like artists in residence or out there working that's why i like patrice so much um because she's artist she's touring europe you know like she's still that she's you know um but yeah you have other ones that like i remember one guy told me

54:35 Luke F. Walton releasing your music without a big label budget is like throwing sand on the beach

54:43 Luke F. Walton and i was like i'm gonna go i'm like if you put enough sand you've got a big old dune

54:50 Luke F. Walton no one's gonna miss that like i get it like okay yeah i've got my handful of sand i'm gonna throw it on a beach people might not notice but if i keep coming back every single day for 25 years that's gonna be a lot of sand that's gonna be an undeniable amount of sand and whether or not it's like like everyone knows about it doesn't really matter it's the act of like going every day and doing the thing and not just being a grumpy old man that's like oh if only i had budget

55:16 Luke F. Walton I

55:17 Qu1tter If only

55:17 Luke F. Walton am huge.

55:17 Qu1tter I had like a

55:19 Luke F. Walton Exactly.

55:19 Qu1tter big like excavator, you know, like I could finally

55:24 Luke F. Walton Yeah.

55:24 Qu1tter get enough sand, you know, like

55:27 Luke F. Walton Yeah.

55:27 Qu1tter why?

55:28 Luke F. Walton I don't want to be that old man that's like, no.

55:30 Qu1tter Yeah, it's funny though.

55:32 Luke F. Walton Yeah, it is funny. It is funny.

55:34 Qu1tter And

55:34 Luke F. Walton and la

55:35 Qu1tter it's kind of cheap, you know,

55:36 Luke F. Walton LA breeds that though there's there's like a weird thing with like the burnout of like the la scene that is is very real but if you protect yourself against it you can build an incredible career but so many people fall prey to it and uh just get swept up and then it sucks to see i see a lot of my friends do it where you know the money's not coming of course that makes sense it takes a long time for the money to come but like

56:01 Luke F. Walton To give up right before you're about to do it is just it's so sad Stay through yeah

56:09 Qu1tter yeah there you go there you have it don't

56:11 Luke F. Walton Don't quit

56:13 Qu1tter quit that's why they call me Qu1tter because i'm a quitter i don't

56:16 Luke F. Walton Because he's not a quitter yeah,

56:18 Qu1tter even know where that came from i actually have

56:19 Luke F. Walton where did that come from

56:20 Qu1tter it's just i don't know it comes from like a lot of different things but

56:23 Luke F. Walton Yeah.

56:24 Qu1tter the okay just really quick i'm gonna give i'm gonna give you like my one true horror story of like working in music um and i've been thinking about i don't know like there have been different instances in like my life and like in high school and stuff where like people just like ran i don't know i guess i kind of felt like i quit stuff to get into music like i

56:47 Luke F. Walton quit Yeah,

56:47 Qu1tter playing hoops

56:47 Luke F. Walton for sure.

56:48 Qu1tter and i quit

56:48 Luke F. Walton Yep.

56:48 Qu1tter like trying so hard in school and stuff and just kind of like just like i don't give a fuck like i like i quit all that shit and then i spent like so much like all that energy into music and it like worked out really well for me um so and then people were like because people would tell me like oh like oh so you're just like quitting you're just like giving up on that shit and i was like yeah i guess so because i'm gonna go do this other shit that's way better um

57:07 Luke F. Walton Yep.

57:08 Qu1tter and so so I kind of been thinking about back my head but I was I uh I was with um I was with this girl we were we like she was visiting LA and we like did this I don't we went to like Palos Verdes and just like had a nice day like hiking walk on the beach whatever and then we like we're driving back up the coast or whatever coming back to LA and um

57:29 Qu1tter uh like i just we were listening to christian lee hudson quitters and

57:33 Luke F. Walton Nice.

57:33 Qu1tter um i was like we were like discussing this concert like oh like what if what if like album names were just like like like um band names or like unused like artist names or whatever

57:43 Luke F. Walton Yeah,

57:43 Qu1tter so like instead

57:43 Luke F. Walton yeah, yeah.

57:44 Qu1tter of being called pink floyd they were called like the wall or something which is like still kind of cool but like it's just like not that cool so we'll make it an album name we're just kind of like bullshitting or whatever i was like not gonna lie like if you called yourself just like quitters or something like

57:57 Luke F. Walton Mm

57:58 Qu1tter that's kind

57:58 Luke F. Walton -hmm.

57:58 Qu1tter of a hard that's like Yeah. that's kind of a cool name a

58:00 Luke F. Walton Yeah.

58:00 Qu1tter little bit but then we so we came back got back to like my apartment at like whatever like 10 o'clock and then we were just like having a drink like settling in so like I was getting a little bit drunk and then I got a phone call from this producer and he's just like yo like what are you doing right now I was like uh nothing why it was

58:17 Luke F. Walton Yeah.

58:18 Qu1tter just like all right i like i need you to come to record plant right now like we got people in the studio like and i'm also i had like i was probably like three months in la like i just met this guy like at a session a couple days ago and like just did some work for him and so like i'm just like a little bit drunk i'm just like and if i wasn't drunk i would have been so scared and

58:36 Luke F. Walton Yes,

58:36 Qu1tter i would have been like

58:37 Luke F. Walton you're

58:37 Qu1tter i would

58:37 Luke F. Walton all loose.

58:37 Qu1tter have been like uh oh like i don't know like i'm kind of like busy right like you know but like i were like telling me something i was just like oh sure whatever i didn't i wasn't even thinking like oh record plant like you know like biggest like one of the biggest like studios and like you know most well-known studios in the world luckily it was only like five minutes away so i was like i was like all right i'll be there soon i was like just send me the address and like just i'll call you when i get there

59:00 Qu1tter and then i just like all right i gotta go so i just droned the record player and then

59:05 Luke F. Walton Oof

59:05 Qu1tter i just

59:06 Luke F. Walton it, man.

59:06 Qu1tter stood in there but i parked terribly on the street and i came out and like i called the guy i'm like yo i'm here i was like where do i go and then i walked in and there's just like people and like i'm like looking around i'm like i recognize that person i recognize that person too because they're just like artists like in there chilling or whatever because like youtube was like doing like a camp

59:25 Luke F. Walton Oh, no.

59:26 Qu1tter with people it's like they're bringing all these different people in but i was like all right so i went i went and they put us in like the big studio room and i walked in and like everyone just kind of like looks up at me and they're like oh what's up and like i see people that like i recognize immediately like artists and stuff and i'm like saying like oh like shit like you're toby or whoever and like gorilla was around just kind of like hanging out and i didn't say anything to her because i wasn't about to go up to her and be like hey how's it going my name is tom like how you doing

59:51 Qu1tter um but like i just went in i said they were like all right like the producer just kind of like he's like listen bro i know you're young but like we need you right now so just go sit down at the computer do your motherfucking thing and i was like whatever so i sat down and i tried to try i try to like turn the computer on and um it like popped up for a second and there was like a little piece of like notebook paper with a phone number

60:11 Qu1tter and so i was like i'm just gonna call this phone number just to make sure whatever it's like called it it was like one of the like one of the like the people who work there like and like you know intern staff that um assistance at record plant he came in and i was just like oh yeah you want to like log on the computer for me like just make sure everything works and then he was like yeah sure and so he logged in and he's like all right you should be good and then the computer the monitor just turned off but like you could hear like music like playing on speakers except the monitor just like went dark and i was like

60:38 Qu1tter he started walking out i was like bro like what happened to the monitor and he was like oh he looked at me because he's older than me right

60:43 Luke F. Walton Yeah.

60:43 Qu1tter so he's just like bro you have to turn the computer on and then he went over and he hit the power button and nothing happened he hit it again and then he's they're such freaking out

60:52 Luke F. Walton Oh,

60:52 Qu1tter and he's like oh no and so there's like 10 record plant people in there like digging up the walls like because there's cables in the walls and the floors and stuff and

61:00 Luke F. Walton oh no.

61:00 Qu1tter they're ripping them all up and like people like you know the producer came and was like all right we got the engineer and then they're like all right let's record and i'm like well they're like they're trying to fix them we're trying to fix them right now so like me and these record plant guys are just like looking for something that went wrong because the computer wouldn't turn on and it's their main rooms like it obviously has to

61:15 Luke F. Walton Yeah,

61:15 Qu1tter work right

61:15 Luke F. Walton right,

61:16 Qu1tter like that's

61:16 Luke F. Walton right, that's crazy.

61:17 Qu1tter like they have that stuff stuff like powered with like the greatest equipment

61:19 Luke F. Walton Yeah.

61:20 Qu1tter that you know money can buy and so we're like trying to figure out what the hell is going on and eventually like someone figures out some cable got unplugged or something or was bad and they figured it out and they like switched it out and it went on at this point like i got there probably like 10 30 at this point it was like 11 45 so we're in

61:37 Luke F. Walton Yeah.

61:37 Qu1tter there for like an hour and 15 minutes like trying to figure it out and then like the producers and the rappers are sitting there like giving you know angsty and like they're getting like come on bro like where would they keep coming up to me and like what's going on like come on and i'm like i'm trying we're trying um and we get it up and they're just like the assistant comes up to me he like he like hugs me and he's like all right listen bro like i know that was like

61:59 Qu1tter it's like i know that was really stressful i'm like sorry about that also youtube's got a hard cut off in 15 minutes so it's just like you all got to be out of here in 15 and they're like these beat makers are like like sending me like 10 beats like we need to

62:11 Luke F. Walton Yeah.

62:11 Qu1tter cut all these tonight and she's like all right just tell them they got to be out here in 15 minutes all right see you and they leave and i'm like i don't want to be the one to tell these guys that you have to leave in 15 like so

62:20 Luke F. Walton i Hellman.

62:20 Qu1tter said i was like all right somebody get on the mic right now like we only have we're gonna have till midnight and so they're like what are you talking about bro we're staying longer

62:27 Qu1tter longer and i was just like i don't know i don't know about that like you know take it up with the higher-ups like i'm just i'm just the engineer like i can't i can't decide that so i'm sitting down there and we start recording and somebody walks in this like guy who's like clearly like you know i have a respect still like oh derek hey and they're like derek shouldn't be out here in 15 he's like let me take care of it and then he like takes out his phone sends one text and then like two minutes later he's like all right we're staying we're staying all night just the power of just the one man to tell record like no

62:55 Luke F. Walton Right.

62:55 Qu1tter all your employees are staying here all night like nobody's sleeping until we finish these records and i'm just like damn that's some power so we're doing the records whatever i was working with guap dad who i've worked with a bunch and he's a great rapper like he's worked with cole and dreamville and jid like all like you know big people and um but yeah we're doing some stuff with him like doing some of his songs working on some beats and stuff and um then like we're writing for glorial and stuff and like the writers for glorial are so

63:23 Qu1tter picky and they were getting mad i don't know what kind of shit they were smoking or like whatever they were like doing but like they were like they like first of all they were all over the place but they were like they were they hated my guts it seemed like they're on the mic yelling at me and they're like threatening me like bro someone needs to like smack this white boy like get some sense knocked into him i'm just like all right let's just finish the song everybody like you know whatever and so like and so i we finished the song and then the guys in the room like on his phone

63:49 Qu1tter um writer and he's like just like on his phone like texting girls or whatever and then i'm just in there and also there's girls like in the room like they brought in like like like you know women like to come in and like you know like throw ass and stuff and just like you know like act like a club and stuff and make it like a party setting because they're making like club records and i'm just like this is crazy like i just got a booty like on my right and like a booty on my left and i'm sitting there like on pro tools like just trying to like record i'm just like i'm like out here just like

64:15 Luke F. Walton Clip game needs to

64:16 Qu1tter i'm

64:16 Luke F. Walton be a

64:16 Qu1tter just out here like clip gaining and stuff yeah that's what i'm doing and i've just got like there's so many people in there i'm just like this is crazy so like the guy's in there like he's on his phone he's talking to girls and stuff and i'm just like doing like a rough mix as quick as i can because it's like it's a record plant and like it's like i didn't have time to like really set up my template or anything i was just kind of going on whatever record plant's template was so i was like learning record plant's template and learning like you know like like putting you know pro q3 on the vocals and stuff and just like

64:43 Qu1tter someone doing a thing and like you know messing with everything I did a quick rough mix and then they're like all right like hit play and so I just turn it up like as loud as it can go so I couldn't hear them talk to me anymore and like yell at me and I just hit play and then they they loved it and they were bumping to it and they loved everything I did and they were all happy with it and they were like this is a hit bro and I'm like all right and then at that point it was like 4 a.m and then they loved me for it and then it's like the guy who was like yelling at me and like threatening me and stuff went into another room to keep writing and then somebody else

65:12 Qu1tter everybody else came in to like write um and then after like five minutes he comes the guy comes back in and he's just like he's like can I see you for a second I was like yeah why he's just like so we had the record plant engineer in there but I like you a lot better so I fired that guy so like why don't you why don't you come in I'm just like okay like you fired an actual engineer at record plant and now you're bringing me in who's just like a nine like a teenager like stop like don't put me under that pressure so I came in

65:39 Qu1tter and it was just a bad time they're sending me beats that like were like they had like the wrong tempos on them and stuff like

65:45 Luke F. Walton Yeah, yeah,

65:45 Qu1tter like you know the beat maker sends you a beat and it says the name of the beat and then it says like you know 120 bpm c sharp minor or whatever and they're sending me beats that have the wrong keys and tempos listed so i'm trying to like figure out like what tempo it actually is and like you know do like you

65:58 Luke F. Walton yeah.

65:58 Qu1tter know like you know like tempo info and whatever like get information on the beat and stuff and auto key and all this stuff and they're just like they were not having it they're like bro just put like we put the tempo in the beat just like keep it the same tempo i'm like these tempos are wrong everybody like

66:11 Luke F. Walton Yeah.

66:11 Qu1tter they're all wrong but they're they didn't agree i guess or they were just trying to tell me like no we know they're right but eventually at the end of the night the guy who was actually making the beats was like oh my god i realized i put the wrong names on all the beats like i'm so sorry like these dudes are yelling at me and they're so mad at me and then so i was in a different room for that and then i had to go back into the main room to

66:31 Qu1tter room to get the files from the earlier songs. but but like the other engineer who was working in there like either took all the files or like record plant or some of the big studios have a policy where like at the end of the night when before like the assistants and interns leave like they like like wipe the computer kind of to like prevent leaks and stuff so like but like i still had files on the computer and like i put most of them on hard drive but there were some that they were like working on that i wasn't in there i didn't know if the other engineer had them or not but they were like all gone and

66:59 Luke F. Walton Oh

66:59 Qu1tter that was

66:59 Luke F. Walton no.

66:59 Qu1tter kind of like my lesson is like all right like no matter what even if they tell me like all right get into another room right now i now I have to stay on my ground and be like okay I'm making copies of these files right now I'll be there in two minutes like

67:09 Luke F. Walton Yeah.

67:09 Qu1tter but like at that point I was just they told me get over there and I was like I'm going so it was it was so awful so I was so I came home and because I was there all night like like you know from you know 10 p.m until whatever like like 3 p.m the next day and so like I just like I walked out of record plant and it was sunny and I was what what time is it everybody like what is going on and like

67:29 Qu1tter yeah and then I just like I got home and I was just like I was freaking out because like they're gonna start asking me for files and stuff and I'm not gonna have I'm not gonna have some of them I have there's one of them that I made like triple copies of because it was like some big deal it sampled some Beyonce song and they were like we're sending this Beyonce's team to like get it cleared like this is the one so I was like all right I made extra copies of that one and then like I didn't hear anything from them for like two months but then like two months later some random phone number texting I don't know how he got my phone number

67:59 Qu1tter or

67:59 Luke F. Walton Mm

68:00 Qu1tter what

68:00 Luke F. Walton -hmm.

68:00 Qu1tter but like this guy texted me he's just like you know like um like what's your oh i forgot to mention like the name thing too i walked in the studio and because i was drunk they're like bro's like this producer's like what's your name and i'm like name's Qu1tter what's your name because like i was listening to quitters and i

68:16 Luke F. Walton Yeah.

68:16 Qu1tter said quitter's be a good name and i was like drunk so i was just like Qu1tter because i was just getting i was just like saying some bullshit and then i was like what about you he's like i'm bone collector my name's given i was just like

68:27 Qu1tter that's crazy you're just you're just telling me you're gonna murder me in my face like that's that's wild like i'm bone collector but they gave me that name like what are you saying like so and it freaked me out but yeah but then i got a text and it's like random number it's like yo it's bone like send me that send me that beyonce sample song and i was just like oh wait that's the one song i do have so

68:49 Luke F. Walton Yeah.

68:49 Qu1tter i sent him the vocals i sent him the stems and everything and he's like all right thanks and that's the only one they asked for out of like the like the 20 that we did that day and i was like oh my god i got so lucky because they would like i would have been so screwed so lesson you

69:04 Luke F. Walton That's good lesson.

69:04 Qu1tter always make copies you know you just gotta be careful you just gotta be careful everybody Yeah,

69:11 Luke F. Walton well

69:12 Qu1tter that's my horror story. That's like the scariest thing that's ever happened in my life.

69:15 Luke F. Walton i appreciate that and with

69:17 Qu1tter Yeah,

69:17 Luke F. Walton that we should we should wrap this episode we're not gonna top that thank you thank

69:20 Qu1tter we're

69:20 Luke F. Walton you Qu1tter

69:20 Qu1tter done.

69:20 Luke F. Walton thanks for thanks for coming

69:22 Qu1tter Scoobert Doobert.