{ "schemaVersion": "v1", "slug": "rani-adi", "title": "To The Feeling Of Flow State with Rani Adi (PinkPantheress, Dove Cameron, postergirl)", "kind": "interview", "listenUrl": "https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/lovemusicmore/episodes/To-The-Feeling-Of-Flow-State-with-Rani-Adi-PinkPantheress--Dove-Cameron--postergirl-e3c1vfc", "contentStartSec": 148.18, "publishedAt": "2026-10-14", "source": { "provider": "openai", "model": "gpt-4o-transcribe-diarize", "normalizedSchema": "v1", "transcribedAt": "2026-06-10T02:06:29.851Z" }, "paragraphs": [ { "startSec": 148.18, "endSec": 155.93, "text": "What's good, everybody? Welcome back to Love Music More. I am Scoobert Doobert and joined by Rani Adi. Welcome to the show, Rani.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 156.73000000000002, "endSec": 158.68, "text": "Thank you for having me. Excited", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 158.68, "endSec": 158.88, "text": "So", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 158.88, "endSec": 159.18, "text": "to be here.", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 159.18, "endSec": 176.08, "text": "I'm super excited to get into your musical journey. I was watching the Tiny Desk concert and I just they kind of like set me off on I watched like 15 Tiny Desk concerts in a row after watching yours. So I just wanted to thank you for that, first of all, and ask how was that? What was that? What was that like?", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 176.692, "endSec": 187.842, "text": "Oh my god, that was so surreal. I have been watching Tiny Desks for years and I love Tiny Desks so much. I also love the artist that I got to do it with, PinkPantheress. She's phenomenal.", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 187.892, "endSec": 188.092, "text": "Super", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 188.092, "endSec": 188.49200000000002, "text": "She's like one", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 188.49200000000002, "endSec": 188.542, "text": "cool.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 188.542, "endSec": 200.292, "text": "of my favorite artists. So it was just really cool. I got, they really let me do whatever I wanted, which was really special. And I feel like just being in the office as a whole was crazy.", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 200.542, "endSec": 203.592, "text": "What do you mean by do whatever you wanted? Was it kind of just like loose musical direction?", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 203.476, "endSec": 207.826, "text": "directions like what you mean or like vibes or outfits or like what what do you mean by that yes", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 207.826, "endSec": 230.964, "text": "um the outfits were styled but they let us choose which um outfits we wanted to wear but we had it was actually like a week of lockouts for like 12 hours rehearsals for five days um but the musical directors um really let us like they didn't like compose the bass parts for me or anything like that and the arrangements themselves were pretty fluid like we they", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 230.964, "endSec": 241.764, "text": "Mm explored -hmm. a lot of different arrangements until we landed and I got to contribute a lot with it like I arranging compose a lot of music too so they um anything I said they would like always try out and they were especially", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 241.764, "endSec": 259.192, "text": "Cool. like I think about the version of Illegal um I had been like what if we did something like Weird Fish's Arpeggi and then they were like okay but you play it on bass and I was like okay and um so it was very much like a um a fluid situation if that makes sense yes", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 259.192, "endSec": 265.04200000000003, "text": "totally does totally does and i love that as like a yeah let's let's reach into the deeper musical bag", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 266.192, "endSec": 282.892, "text": "absolutely it was so cool it was like such a special experience to have love it i want to take people into what a 12-hour lockout looks like because i feel like a lot of people might have just heard you say those words and had no connection to what like that grind of rehearsals and how much goes into", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 283.444, "endSec": 295.144, "text": "a tiny desk or like a performance like that that's high you know high stakes you you really want your artist to look good because a lot of people can see it what's what's the lockout what's lockout mean what does that look like what walk me through a day in the life", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 295.7, "endSec": 322.45, "text": "so um i would say for this one like with 12-hour lockouts this is pretty typical for gigs that are like you're not consistently rehearsing with that artist you're playing with them um and it's kind of like you have a short amount of time for like a big show um something like fallon would be similar like any night shows or like anything like that so basically you wake up in the morning you go to the rehearsal spot so say we're at the hotel we get to the rehearsal spot", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 322.612, "endSec": 329.612, "text": "by 9 or 10 a.m and then we're rehearsing basically until 10 or 11 p.m and it's not like", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 330.132, "endSec": 353.482, "text": "rehearsing straight through we might do like sectionals at some point we'll take like a lunch break but we're pretty much running through the set over and over and over again exploring different arrangements then the artist usually isn't there for the whole day also they're often just there for like pockets of time so she might have been there for like three to four hours at a time maybe five six towards the end of the week but the first day she wasn't even there we were just like getting", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 353.482, "endSec": 359.032, "text": "Cool. down the stuff and then it was really cool she's such a great artist because she came in and she was like", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 358.836, "endSec": 366.4117281553398, "text": "she was like I want to do something entirely different she was like I want to take these arrangements so far from the original so Yeah.", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 366.4117281553398, "endSec": 392.44, "text": "then then I feel like I got to really give a lot of feedback and like come up with a lot of different ideas we did this like medley at the end which came about because I just was like what if we tried these chords and then when Vicky like PinkPantheress is that's her actual name but when she came into the space the next day she had the idea to just do a bunch of her songs over over that over those chord changes which ended up being such a sick part of the arrangement I", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 392.79, "endSec": 409.64000000000004, "text": "That's incredible. There's so many things that I want to touch on in there. I guess the first thing that I want to ask about personally, I really like it when you learn the songs like kind of as the record and then start to extend into alternate realities or arrangements. Curious, curious your take on kind of that workflow.", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 410.54, "endSec": 441.842, "text": "think in general with music like I'm someone that will learn a record to a T like exactly what someone played on the record like I'll learn every single note the inflections everything and then I won't have to adhere to it at all because like if you know it inside and out then you're able to it's it's like almost like that um saying that people are you learn all the rules to be able to break them and I feel like it's very similar with music like I want to learn every intricacy in detail of something and then be able to", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 441.62, "endSec": 448.92, "text": "able to just forget it and do whatever I want and like let like your you know like move through you", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 449.812, "endSec": 466.362, "text": "It's brilliant. And I totally agree because if you get into that level of detail, then you're not only like learning the parts, but you're also kind of learning the intention behind it, like you're saying the articulation or whatever, all of those decisions and then you internalize the decisions and you can make things in that same kind of field. Yeah.", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 466.66200000000003, "endSec": 476.712, "text": "Yeah, exactly. It was, I feel like in general with music, like one of the best ways to learn a ton of vocabulary and to also innovate your own is", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 476.628, "endSec": 495.678, "text": "is to learn your favorite players inside and out and really learn them but not necessarily need to I when I'm playing I'm not thinking like oh I want to play like James Jamerson or Jocko or whatever it's just that you get to channel those players because you understand the vocabulary that they were using if that makes sense", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 495.828, "endSec": 503.27799999999996, "text": "Totally makes sense. I also think on bass, this is something that I struggled with on guitar, but then when I started to learn more bass.", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 503.27799999999996, "endSec": 518.58, "text": "i got better at on guitar was articulation and really thinking through it's not just like the notes but it's like how you're approaching the notes like i don't know i think there's just something about bass maybe like the the mechanics of the instrument that really lend themselves towards articulation just like a saxophone", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 519.188, "endSec": 529.438, "text": "Oh, absolutely. I mean, I grew up playing jazz. So I was like a jazz kid through and through and I still play jazz, but it's not my like main pursuit anymore.", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 529.7379999999999, "endSec": 549.372, "text": "Yeah. But something about jazz that's really significant is I feel like When you transcribe solos or bass lines and stuff like all of my teachers really emphasize the importance of time and articulation with it. So then you get really into the nuance of how something sounds, how someone's feel is against time, you", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 549.372, "endSec": 564.76, "text": "Yeah. know. Let's dig into that because I think of just run-of-the-mill music fan, they'll feel that, like the concept of rushing or dragging, maybe they saw Whiplash. you know they haven't", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 564.76, "endSec": 587.412231884058, "text": "Yeah. internalized what that means or how that feels and the way that articulation i think plays into that too because synthesizers help make that click to me of like attack time where you can be playing something in the same like gridded location like time wise but the the way that the attack integrates with like that immediate transient has like a very different experience of Like if it's dragging or whatnot.", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 587.412231884058, "endSec": 612.8879999999999, "text": "Yeah, curious curious your thoughts. Yes, definitely. So one of the biggest things with time is like I really, I think that as a bassist, my eye always practice with metronome or unless I'm playing against a record. But I think having incredible time is the most important thing to being able to do anything else with music. It doesn't matter if you can play all these notes if they're not in.", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 612.8879999999999, "endSec": 638.698, "text": "and if your time isn't good like it's going to show especially when you're a bassist so something i really played with a lot throughout the years is like how different things feel on a metronome pulse and also how different records feel and you think about something like like miles davis the record for and more that's this record with like ron carter playing bass it's like tony on drums it's one of the craziest records that every song rushes", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 638.772, "endSec": 650.272, "text": "is incredibly fast it like starts at one tempo and ends at a different tempo and it's just the most insane record but that feels so natural and that's because they're all playing with time together if that makes sense", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 650.272, "endSec": 661.408, "text": "Yeah. um so I feel like it's Time is not only about like having consistent time, but it's also being able to adjust your time to the environment you're in and how the music is flowing.", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 661.908, "endSec": 679.808, "text": "Yes, absolutely. I've talked to some people that have sat in on pro level musician jams without being pro level musicians. And they told me it felt like playing basketball with a bunch of NBA players or something like that. But not in that you felt completely outclassed, but you felt like everyone else.", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 679.808, "endSec": 708.7339999999999, "text": "was so good at what they did that you're just like lifted up because they're catching like like they were you know they were dragging they were doing some weird stuff the entire ensemble was like no we got you we'll pick you back up we're listening and they're like it was just such an insane feeling to feel like the entire band like accounting for their weaknesses but making it sound cool and those are my favorite kind of experiences sometimes you like I've been in things where you know it's usually me I wasn't good enough where I was", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 708.788, "endSec": 734.238, "text": "with people and they would they'd just do the jazz vibe where they'd be giving me dirty looks or like you know not not the collaborative experience that i grew up doing music it made me better at music it's a fascinating thing does the ensemble follow the weakest link do we all kind of go in a direction together or does somebody get like ostracized you kind of have those options in front of you whenever you have kind of a weirder ensemble", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 735.412, "endSec": 747.962, "text": "I feel like the most important thing as a musician is like to make everybody you are playing with sound like you want to play your best capabilities but it's also like the weakest link in a group you want to make sure that they still sound good like", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 747.962, "endSec": 767.116, "text": "Yeah. you are a better musician if you know how to one thing play in excellence of course but like also play to the people that you're playing with so it doesn't mean you have to dull your skills down but lift them up like literally like you should make them sound better than they would on their own you", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 767.116, "endSec": 787.462, "text": "Yeah know even if they're like a newer player or like the weakest link or whatever it I think it shows a lot about your musicianship if you're able to take a situation like that and really listen which a lot of people do the opposite and they stop listening which I'm like Like when things go wrong in music, that's when your ears are the most important that they'll ever be.", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 788.628, "endSec": 815.4780000000001, "text": "such a good point because yeah the metronome sometimes you know we're going off in different directions or you hit the weird situation where they might be a really great player but something crazy happens like one of my one of the best drummers i knew uh the the kick drum started sounding like really weird but it was because the kick drum was running away from him every time he pressed it and so he was having to like kick further and further and further with his leg out and yeah you had that kind of decision we i don't think we had tracks so we were able to account", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 815.508, "endSec": 831.658, "text": "count for that a little bit but um you know it wasn't his fault there's just some crazy thing that was happening environmentally um but yeah if we just ignored him we would have made him sound ridiculous by not ignoring him you know he gets the end of the the song and he calls me over we move the kick drum back you know", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 832.116, "endSec": 836.716, "text": "absolutely and like I'm not like you you mentioned the jazz thing about vibing people and", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 836.716, "endSec": 859.766, "text": "Yep. stuff like that's like one thing I just feel like music is meant to be made move forward so like I my end goal has has not been to be like the best jazz musician in the world like I want to move music forward and like innovate um not that doing jazz doesn't do that like I absolutely love jazz and I think it's like such a great foundation but I also really didn't like being a woman in jazz like", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 859.604, "endSec": 886.404, "text": "it's like growing up and stuff there's just so much misogyny and Ugh. gave me a lot of character but then I started to being a woman like you would walk into a space and like people would automatically like have a preconceived notion of your abilities um without ever hearing you or knowing anything about you and it was just like a very much a boys club and on top of that I feel like the vibe of playing was so not safe that I just try to never make people feel like my like younger self", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 886.356, "endSec": 894.056, "text": "self-felt in like a lot of those environments and it it changed over time because like the more I grew like the more respect you got whatever in", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 894.056, "endSec": 908.106, "text": "totally those spaces but it's like you shouldn't bully someone because they're not because they're a beginner it's like I don't even believe that being like good or bad at something I think everybody's like on their own journey and like you can be a beginner at something and you shouldn't be like shamed for", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 908.6110657500001, "endSec": 914.91106575, "text": "totally know or like not have the chops in a certain on a day on a certain day or in a certain genre", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 915.12706575, "endSec": 943.42706575, "text": "or whatever you're getting thrown into a weird situation that was what i what i felt was like part of it was the people that i was playing with were young i was young and i was i was very much coming up from a non-jazz background and so like did not understand the vocabulary or the like the vibe so i didn't get it but eventually you know i won him over but i also had to get better but it was kind of one thing that i'll always look back on was like did it have to be that way did it have to be so brutal like i was still motivated i was still practicing i don't know if it really even made me practice", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 943.41506575, "endSec": 963.85906575, "text": "practice more. I think it just made me more sad. Something that one of my mentors in college, Patrice Russian, said because I went to USC and she had said something about how you should build people up, not break them down. And she was talking about in regards to being a woman in jazz because she really took me under her wing when I was in college and I felt like very seen by her.", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 964.0590657500001, "endSec": 973.9090657500001, "text": "Yep. And she had said how important it was to like you want to give people the foundation to feel inspired to practice and to believe that they can get.", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 973.9090657500001, "endSec": 999.53306575, "text": "get to that destination rather than feeling like they'll never be good enough because like mindset is everything like if you believe you're never going to be good enough you probably won't like you probably won't like I think the power of the mind is everything and like if you're brought up in a way that's like positive reinforcement essentially and being like these things have been achieved so like that means it's possible for you to get there too you know", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 999.63906575, "endSec": 1005.63906575, "text": "you know rather Yeah, did than making someone feel like very small yeah I don't vibe with that type of narrative I", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 1005.63906575, "endSec": 1015.40706575, "text": "you do the pop program cool did I was actually like a double major at USC so I did the jazz program and the pop program yeah so it was amazing oh", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 1015.40706575, "endSec": 1020.50706575, "text": "That's awesome. I was part of the first class of the pop program my god no way on what instrument okay", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 1020.50706575, "endSec": 1030.70706575, "text": "Guitar mostly like I'd cool say more songwriting I did more like songwriting one-on-ones and stuff like that in juries But guitar was like what I did all the ensembles and stuff for", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 1031.19106575, "endSec": 1042.44106575, "text": "amazing the pop program i don't know how it was because you were in the first class but when i was there it was like unreal like i think the best music program and one of the best music programs in the world it was so good oh", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 1042.44106575, "endSec": 1046.49106575, "text": "I couldn't agree more and Patrice is a huge part of that um yeah yeah she's everything", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 1046.49106575, "endSec": 1062.82706575, "text": "yeah love her to death uh and I agree she she's one that like in terms of timing and articulation and pocket and feel and understanding listening I remember one time we were We were playing, I think it was Rosanna. She came up and played with us.", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 1062.82706575, "endSec": 1088.62306575, "text": "just like yeah i don't know it was it was such a special uh special program i think that was part of part of what i was feeling was there was like this jazz versus pop animosity it's cool to hear that there's people like you that do both but early on there were like there were these weird people write like things on our jury sheets and stuff like um like children's handwriting like music for kids or like weird stuff it was just like yeah", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 1088.62306575, "endSec": 1108.87506575, "text": "Just, whatever like, ego-driven. and that's like very jazz cool the jazz program was like literally all boys so it was just like me and the boys um but when i joined the pop program it was like the first environment i'd been in in so long maybe ever that i was like celebrative for being a woman like they were like it's so cool that you're a girl that plays bass rather than being like oh my god like", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 1109.71906575, "endSec": 1113.41906575, "text": "you're a girl who plays bass which is just like funny to me at it this point is seriously", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 1113.41906575, "endSec": 1130.06906575, "text": "but none of it it's like it's just like part of the storybook and I'm not resentful or bitter about any of it like I feel like it's all part of the narrative but I would never want someone to do that like I would never treat people like that regardless of their gender or skill set or anything yeah", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 1130.06906575, "endSec": 1149.58906575, "text": "agreed agreed yeah and i don't know it is it's an interesting thing uh genre wise it's also funny thinking about how like how like jazz like what jazz was versus what jazz is in terms of like becoming like a part of the academy and like with like grading levels and stuff like that rather than like i don't know this is more avant-garde", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 1150.23106575, "endSec": 1166.43106575, "text": "crazy expression of self and drugs and like it's in the same way that like rock it's like what is rock now like sex drugs and rock and roll like now what is it like ford commercials it's just interesting to watch how uh how music can change and how like there can be vibes attached to different genres or at least in different places", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 1167.15906575, "endSec": 1195.70906575, "text": "absolutely and music is so expansive like Yeah, music yeah is like a never-ending well of like I'm someone that like doesn't even believe in mastery like I think that we can learn forever and ever and I don't think that you can ever reach like a level that you're like my philosophy with it is like there's always more to learn and that's what's so exciting about music and there's always more to innovate on any type of music like why would you want your life like for me I I would never want my life school to just be to emulate", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 1195.83106575, "endSec": 1200.73106575, "text": "like everybody else that had come before me and like learn everything I can from them and then innovate.", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 1201.18106575, "endSec": 1201.68106575, "text": "Yes.", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 1202.29506575, "endSec": 1209.9450657500001, "text": "Yeah. And how do you, so I think that what you did on the Tiny Desk is a really good example and what you're doing also with your own project that I want to get into soon here too.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 1209.9450657500001, "endSec": 1228.6950657500001, "text": "How do you then take that innovation and put it out into the world in a way that like people can resonate with or that it becomes like, you know, it's that straddling that line of like commercial and like making a living and trying to be successful, but also trying to like push music forward and put more of yourself and your kind of like fingerprint.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 1229.1750657500002, "endSec": 1233.47506575, "text": "on everything you do. How do you find that balance or is it even a balance?", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 1234.80706575, "endSec": 1248.20706575, "text": "um i definitely think it's all a balance like right now i'm in the beginning stages of developing my band poster girl which is like we're a band i'm um the producer and mixer now i'm like producing and mixing the entire album by like myself", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 1248.20706575, "endSec": 1263.45706575, "text": "Yes. um Awesome. but we are a band and like these are like my best friends who are i think like the best like four like we're five people but these are four of the best musicians on the fucking planet so it's like the beginning stages of developing something that like like", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 1263.25506575, "endSec": 1273.80506575, "text": "like i see an entire trajectory with but we have we just released our first single i'm currently producing our first album but we have like written like four albums worth of", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 1273.80506575, "endSec": 1287.65506575, "text": "No music of way, really? course yeah we have a ton because we write as a collective but then the process for producing and mixing it is really like my favorite bands right now like hiatus coyote is like one of my favorite bands and i love that they fuse live with like", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 1288.27906575, "endSec": 1300.22906575, "text": "electronica and like I'm a producer so I was like I want to do that type of approach we don't sound like hiatus coyote I feel like their fan base would resonate with poster girl but it's like that type of hybrid of um", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 1301.23906575, "endSec": 1327.83906575, "text": "and I'm like doing a lot of experimentation so it's like I'm at the beginning stages of building something so right now I'm not expect I am not gonna like achieve everything right now but it's like a long-term vision and like two years ago where I am now is like where I wanted to be so it's kind of just like I feel like with developing any project you kind of have to see like the long-term a to z of a vision and also realize how to balance that with like making money and like", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 1327.95906575, "endSec": 1345.8090657500002, "text": "work and play and like these different skill sets so something that I did like poster girl started like we started April 2024 we just released our first single like two months ago our second single is coming out in a few weeks the album's probably going to come out early next year I'm still like producing it I'm guessing like February March", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 1345.8090657500002, "endSec": 1366.11706575, "text": "Great. but Awesome. at the beginning of this year I was like okay I want to produce only for my band and only for my solo project and I want to develop these two projects from the ground up we're starting at ground zero essentially for them how can I do that and make money and that and I was like I don't really want to tour full time because", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 1366.11706575, "endSec": 1384.14506575, "text": "Mm-hmm. I know that I won't be able to do that if I do that and I don't really want to work for other people definitely don't want a coffee shop job like none of that stuff like how can I fund this so then I started you I took this class called like how to work with music companies by this creator named Sides who's amazing she's incredible so encouraging has", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 1384.14506575, "endSec": 1406.62306575, "text": "Cool Yeah been so supportive and she's just the best and that course literally changed my life because then I started doing content obsessively and then I started doing it full time and working with all of these software companies and hardware companies and it was the best decision I ever made and it's it's given me the ability to just do content essentially", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 1406.62306575, "endSec": 1411.47306575, "text": "Cool. and Yeah. be selective with the gigs I take on base because I love playing base and", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 1411.47306575, "endSec": 1432.7730657500001, "text": "Yep. like um but right now I'm trying to like I want to develop poster girl into like everything you know so I had to figure out like how do I do that and like focus all my attention on this but still be able to fund my life and content is a lot of time but I choose when I work like it's like completely all my hours and like the time for the monetary compensation is like way higher", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 1432.72706575, "endSec": 1439.92706575, "text": "higher than other things so it's been like a good balance I feel like that was like a long winded explanation to", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 1440.62706575, "endSec": 1445.02706575, "text": "what you were saying about balancing everything but yeah that's like how I'm feeling with it", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 1445.02706575, "endSec": 1456.3090657500002, "text": "You hit on so many things that I love. I think the most important thing for actually people that will be successful is unrelenting vision and actually doing stuff. to get there so like", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 1456.3090657500002, "endSec": 1473.1090657500001, "text": "Oh, you yeah. have to do both like i can feel the excitement from you i can feel i like i see it in your eyes of like i know what i want this project to be but then you're backing it up with like and i also recognize all of the steps that it's going to take to get there we need these milestones these albums these singles and like etc", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 1473.9750657499999, "endSec": 1477.4750657499999, "text": "and it's like also you have to like figure out how to market all of it Right, of course and", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 1477.4750657499999, "endSec": 1502.82506575, "text": "totally. that that is like I think the trickiest part for a lot of people right now I'm in like in taking kind of with the marketing I'm like okay like I need to figure out how to market this music but I also need to finish the project too so I'm like kind of like okay if this song's not gonna like immediately pop off that's okay it will have its time it will have its time I trust the process because the process has always worked out like it at least that's how I feel like I feel like very blessed for the life I live", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 1502.67906575, "endSec": 1523.51306575, "text": "So I've really grateful for the family I have for like the like experiences I've had and like I know that in my life and in what I've experienced I've everything has always worked out and I've always trusted the process and it's like I literally. two years ago wanted the life I live right now so badly and", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 1523.51306575, "endSec": 1547.41306575, "text": "Yeah. like I wrote in a journal exactly where I wanted to be in a few like and then it's like in a few years from now I know exactly where I want to be with Poster Girl and stuff and it's not going to get there until like we're a bit farther along I don't expect anybody to know who we are for the next like two to three years but that's like about being I think like a visionary in any form and like", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 1547.35106575, "endSec": 1568.15106575, "text": "like achieving greatness in any step or like being able to tap into like what like not fearing like what is like your deepest truth and like how do you get to that destination and what are the steps because it's like the a to z of a vision is everything if you think short term like okay right now I'm sitting here tomorrow I want to be playing Red Rocks", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 1568.56706575, "endSec": 1580.96706575, "text": "girl like that doesn't that's not how it works like that's just not how it works and things take time and time always takes so much time but like you really have to trust the process with it you know", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 1581.76706575, "endSec": 1595.16706575, "text": "yeah yeah you gotta you gotta earn it and also you need to not be scared because i think it's easy to get scared especially in something that has a ton of competition like music whatever people out there wanting to do but like", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 1596.75906575, "endSec": 1612.70906575, "text": "the competition doesn't really matter like you were saying before about talent too it's like we're all kind of on our own thing and if you're true to it if you find it if you develop it you're probably going to find some other people that are into it too how many who knows but like you'll find some people", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 1613.2710657500002, "endSec": 1641.87106575, "text": "and even even like if you have a hundred monthly listeners it's like that's a hundred people like i don't know there there are these there are these levels that i think that we get very comparative and also there's these levels of like we want compensation so you want to like be able to survive so you need to have certain numbers or streams or whatever to be able to do that or red rocks ticket sales but like finding the joy along the way it's something i have to remind myself too of just like it's not always this it can be this but that keep the keep the faith keep the vision", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 1641.91106575, "endSec": 1646.66106575, "text": "I feel like it's a good thing to note too like say someone has 100 10 monthly listeners right", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 1646.66106575, "endSec": 1659.5610657500001, "text": "Yep. now tomorrow they could have 100 in two days from now they could have a video that goes viral and suddenly they have 100,000 monthly listeners in two months from now they could have a million monthly listeners in two years from now they might have", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 1660.53506575, "endSec": 1679.8756253607057, "text": "like 50 million monthly listeners like the trajectory of like where you are right now versus where you can theoretically get and how quickly that trajectory can happen is unique to everybody's journey of course you have to have the talent and like drive and motivation and ambition like you can't just want these things and not do anything about it Mm but like-hmm.", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 1679.8756253607057, "endSec": 1686.86306575, "text": "it's like what I think about for like myself, what I want to do is so achievable. Like people have done it. Do you know what I mean?", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 1686.86306575, "endSec": 1708.82106575, "text": "Yeah. It's nothing that I want to do is out of left field. I've literally trained my whole life to be able to kind of like execute the vision I have. And I think about like my mom is always like, you have to be like really careful with like kind of like how how you go about talking talking about these types of things because like, but I think I'm also not a very competitive person with other people. people like", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 1708.82106575, "endSec": 1725.16706575, "text": "Mm I -hmm. think that everyone can have space to shine and like I don't I don't feel in competition like I think about it with poster girl it's like our music is not i don't feel like we're competing with anybody you know like", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 1725.16706575, "endSec": 1743.81706575, "text": "Yeah. i don't and i would never think that with really any artists like they can all coexist maybe you'll have a similar like i think about our fan base i feel like hiatus coyote would be a great for like a band for us to like like think about in terms of like inspiration for like their shows and like their fan base and everything because", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 1744.6950657500001, "endSec": 1754.29506575, "text": "their their music is a huge inspiration to us but I don't feel in competition at all I just feel like the that's like mother is if that makes sense but", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 1754.29506575, "endSec": 1774.94906575, "text": "Yeah, I it does. think not being competitive though and only being like not competitive with yourself but like motivated to just like become like the next version it's like of yourself is a really powerful thing because then you're not comparing yourself to other people and I feel like competition and like being competitive in terms of music like I guess like I get it with sports it's different but", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 1774.94906575, "endSec": 1792.54906575, "text": "yeah in terms of music like it's there's not like a win I guess at the Grammys and things like that like there's winners but like in general for like your actual music and your fan base and developing and concerts and all this stuff there's no one you're really competing with like it's it's like a competition with yourself", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 1794.14906575, "endSec": 1799.64906575, "text": "yeah it's a great way to put it and it's also like a great way to center the work and the practice and the study and", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 1800.34306575, "endSec": 1811.09306575, "text": "the the community and all that because just like like you're saying of like you're just you're excited to be making music with the people that you're making music with and that's going to come across when", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 1811.1581315, "endSec": 1815.4581315, "text": "absolutely oh my god i'm like this is like i love it so much", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 1816.1581315, "endSec": 1817.7581315, "text": "did you decide to form the band", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 1818.3861315000001, "endSec": 1842.9361315, "text": "so um that's a great question so two years ago um danny and i who's the lead singer and also like one of my best friends my sister one of my soulmates like my musical like soulmate also like she's just she is in every lifetime we're together and she was on a tour and i was simultaneously on a tour and we were both like on this tour and we were like we want to start like we were on these stages and we were like", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 1843.6661315000001, "endSec": 1852.6606212959184, "text": "I was experiencing this audience that would like know every word to every song in every city and I was just like damn like that is something I want I'm so inspired by this Yeah.", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 1852.6606212959184, "endSec": 1874.5001315, "text": "and that's something that I want this is like a vision I've had since I was a little kid like I've always wanted to have I've had different bands throughout time but never like Poster Girl is like my North Star and um Danny had like a very similar experience and Danny's one of the best vocalists in the world so I were texting about it and sending voice messages back and forth which I have all of them and", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 1874.5001315, "endSec": 1874.9501315, "text": "Good.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 1874.9501315, "endSec": 1886.6501315, "text": "we're like what if we started a band and at the time I was living in LA and she was living in Philly and I'm from Philly and like we texted our friend Julian who's like one of the best drummers ever who was living who had just moved to New York and", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 1887.6661315000001, "endSec": 1897.0161315, "text": "he was like oh my god this is all I ever want and then we were talking for a few months and then Danny booked a flight we made just the two of us made a ton of demos in this two-week span in", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 1897.0161315, "endSec": 1897.5661315, "text": "Cool.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 1897.5661315, "endSec": 1915.3161315, "text": "my bedroom and then I was supposed to go on a tour March 2024 a week before it gets canceled because the artist is injured so then I suddenly have this whole month free and I was like okay I'm just gonna go to Philly and Danny and I are gonna just faffo like fuck around and find out like let's just fuck around and find out let's see what happens", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 1915.2501315, "endSec": 1932.0321315, "text": "that can happen so I go home I find a sublet I go home for the months and we just start literally doing 12-hour lockouts like every day just the two of us and then we're like basically workshopping with every musician in Philadelphia we're like who can like what can happen and", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 1932.0321315, "endSec": 1932.1821315000002, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 1932.1821315000002, "endSec": 1940.5321315, "text": "julian was coming down from new york like because it's right there it's like right next to new york so he was coming down all the time then we booked a show for 420 um yeah", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 1940.5321315, "endSec": 1942.7821315, "text": "Wow, so you already play the show after", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 1942.7821315, "endSec": 1943.1321315, "text": "then", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 1943.1321315, "endSec": 1943.2821315, "text": "that", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 1943.2821315, "endSec": 1943.5321315, "text": "we", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 1943.5321315, "endSec": 1943.5821315, "text": "sprint?", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 1943.5821315, "endSec": 1956.6821315000002, "text": "booked a like we did this sprint we wrote a ton of music finalize the members who are like my best friends ever these are also the greatest musicians and it was this like cosmic alignment that everybody needed this", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 1956.7861315, "endSec": 1977.9361315, "text": "at that time and it was like the perfect and it's just something is so magical with Poster Girl like I've never I've trained my whole life for this project and I also think that like the connection I have with these people is so incredibly rare and I've never had something like this before and I've been playing music for my whole life", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 1977.9361315, "endSec": 1978.0861315000002, "text": "Yes.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 1978.0861315000002, "endSec": 1984.0421315, "text": "we both have but something about and also something about the way that we write too is just so special", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 1984.0421315, "endSec": 1984.0921315, "text": "Critical.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 1984.0921315, "endSec": 1991.7921315, "text": "and like everybody is like really close friends and it started like we were all just like posted up at my parents house like having sleepovers at my parents house", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 1991.7921315, "endSec": 2009.328212104534, "text": "You interrupt this very important broadcast. What I'm asking for is for you to rate it five stars, share it with your friends. This is like the most important thing for this podcast to grow. So if you want to do this, you go onto the podcast screen, right? You click on the dot dot dot on Spotify. Under there it says rate show. And you go and you click it five stars.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 2009.328212104534, "endSec": 2026.4101315, "text": "If you could do that for me, that's the best way for the algorithms, all this stuff to share it out with the world. I know that it's a lot to ask, but if you could please, please, please, just please just hit those three dots and a five star would really help us out and helps us, you know, get the word out and spread the love of music. So thank you. If you're listening on YouTube, you know what to do.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 2026.4101315, "endSec": 2030.6601315, "text": "Like, subscribe, all that good stuff. Thank you so much. And here's the rest of the episode.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 2030.8601315, "endSec": 2041.9841315, "text": "So yeah, then 420 is like the official anniversary. three four 2024 and then we've had so much happen since then but because it's like for me this is the first time I've ever developed a project like this as", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 2041.9841315, "endSec": 2042.4341315000001, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 2042.4341315000001, "endSec": 2048.7341315, "text": "a producer and like mixing this is the first time I've ever mixed a project so the first single took a while to finish", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 2048.9341315, "endSec": 2069.4021315, "text": "What's that process like as a mix engineer? I'm always super curious for people that mix and are a member of the band. How do you navigate like? dispute sir somebody wants like this instrument louder or quieter or have you not had to deal with like a lot of that do you have more creative freedom on the mix side what's that look like just like practically yeah", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 2069.4021315, "endSec": 2084.3621315, "text": "So since I'm producing and mixing it, I feel like they're kind of one in the same in some way. Like I'm simultaneously producing it and mixing it at the same time. It is like. the craziest amount of work like no one would ever sign up to do this other", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 2084.3621315, "endSec": 2084.7121315, "text": "Yes.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 2084.7121315, "endSec": 2101.9621315, "text": "than me but I'm like I am someone that's so obsessive with music and like detail I can't imagine anybody else producing or mixing this like I would never want that like I really at this stage for the mixing at this stage but maybe later on I would once but it's just hard it's so intertwined", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 2101.9621315, "endSec": 2102.2621315, "text": "It's", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 2102.2621315, "endSec": 2102.5621315, "text": "with the production", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 2102.5621315, "endSec": 2102.7621315, "text": "so intertwined.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 2102.7621315, "endSec": 2103.4621315, "text": "process and", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 2103.4621315, "endSec": 2104.0621315, "text": "Yes.", "speaker": "Luke F. 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Walton" }, { "startSec": 2153.9461315, "endSec": 2162.4721315, "text": "i need all of them because i'm working my ass off to get this to where i want it to go and i don't want to hear it hear any negative comments once it's done do", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 2162.4721315, "endSec": 2162.6221315000003, "text": "Right.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 2162.6221315000003, "endSec": 2163.1721315, "text": "you know what I mean I", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 2163.1721315, "endSec": 2163.2721315, "text": "Totally", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 2163.2721315, "endSec": 2163.4721315, "text": "don't want to", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 2163.4721315, "endSec": 2163.6221315000003, "text": "know what", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 2163.6221315000003, "endSec": 2163.6721315, "text": "anything", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 2163.6721315, "endSec": 2163.8721315000003, "text": "you mean.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 2163.8721315000003, "endSec": 2167.8721315000003, "text": "you want like or forever hold your peace type of vibes", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 2167.8721315000003, "endSec": 2167.9221315, "text": "Yes.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 2167.9221315, "endSec": 2186.3121315, "text": "um and it's great because their notes are always great if it doesn't work it doesn't work if it works it works like sometimes and it's a lot of experimentation like we're in the I think it's gonna get just easier as we go like but it's a lot of experimentation it's a crazy amount of work to produce and mix something because I'm working with live and electronic so", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 2186.3121315, "endSec": 2186.4621315, "text": "I", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 2186.4621315, "endSec": 2186.7121315, "text": "it's", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 2186.7121315, "endSec": 2186.8121315, "text": "know.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 2186.8121315, "endSec": 2204.4121315, "text": "like a very fusion and I'm like trying to innovate like unintentionally but like very much like it's like this vision in my head it is very intentional but this vision in my head I'm like trying to fully execute into sonic form there's just so many moving parts so it's just a lot of work but it's amazing", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 2205.2621315, "endSec": 2231.5401315, "text": "Yeah. And I think you're doing it the right way for what I was saying of like. navigating disputes if you're mixing and producing kind of at the same time that everybody is feeling like okay this is where it's going so you're making a lot of like the vibe decisions early and able to like get that collaborative and then as you zero in because like the worst i'm sure you've had this but like the worst mix note is like hey can we change the kick drum or something like this like the keystone for the entire arrangement", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 2232.0901315, "endSec": 2236.9581315, "text": "Oh, no. Yeah, there was definitely like some. we had with this last single it", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 2236.9581315, "endSec": 2237.2081315, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 2237.2081315, "endSec": 2255.8781315, "text": "took us forever to get the vocal to a place where we were like it's done but it was just like a very unique sound that we were aiming for and like we had to really try a lot of things and also I'm someone that I was watching mixed with the masters today and someone", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 2255.8781315, "endSec": 2255.9281315, "text": "Nice.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 2255.9281315, "endSec": 2280.0281315, "text": "was like I don't do any of the vocal editing like all of like the stuff with the breaths on a different track and all that stuff and I'm like I'm the exact opposite like Danny's vocal is phenomenal like she is a perfect vocalist her pitch is amazing like all of it I'm working with like one of the best vocalists on the planet but I still want that vocal to sound as clean as possible you know so there's just like so much that goes into getting something", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 2280.0181315, "endSec": 2284.9681315000003, "text": "something to be of in where I'm hearing it in my head to be a final product.", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 2285.2181315000003, "endSec": 2292.8681315000003, "text": "Totally. I felt that with great vocalists, sometimes it's easy to underdo it. Because", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 2292.8681315000003, "endSec": 2293.2181315000003, "text": "Oh,", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 2293.2181315000003, "endSec": 2302.6681315, "text": "like totally. with somebody that's not a great vocalist, it's like, oh, like I'm going to zero in, get all the breaths, get all the consonants or whatever. And somebody that's great vocalist is like, oh, it sounds great. Done.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 2304.0501315, "endSec": 2304.5501315, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 2304.6001315000003, "endSec": 2314.0501315, "text": "and that's that's a trap that's a trap you don't want to overdo it of course ever but you also don't want to underdo it and like not you know put put in the due diligence in the effort", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 2314.7701315, "endSec": 2337.5701315, "text": "yeah absolutely it's 100% a balance it's it's cool though with producing and mixing this type of thing is it's I'm learning so much every single it's like you go into the DAW and I'm immediately in flow state with it and it's just so it gets like very meditative and even with gain staging I'm like", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 2338.8021315, "endSec": 2357.7441315, "text": "it's just that's why yeah that's why I love producing and stuff it's just this infinite world of crafting a sound in your head and it's just like being essentially like the force behind like a collective vision is like such a powerful thing to do", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 2358.1441315, "endSec": 2378.0941315, "text": "it totally is and productions so crazy especially when you're doing the mixing kind of at the same time is just how what there's such a butterfly effect that's why like gain staging is such a perfect thing to talk about of i guess i don't know if everybody knows what gain staging is but just like the amount of volume that goes from one thing to the next and how loud they are throughout", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 2378.0341315, "endSec": 2403.0841315, "text": "throughout the entire the chain can and i learned this as a guitarist that that was one of my favorite things that i started to put my overdrive pedal in different places of my pedal board and crank it and then see like what happens if i could drive something super loud into my fuzz pedal versus like after and then it gave me the aha for like mixing of like you can do crazy terrible things to audio inside of the box and make crazy wonderful things come out", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 2403.0841315, "endSec": 2407.5241315000003, "text": "it's so interesting like i love living in the digital era uh Mm of -hmm. Me too.", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 2407.5241315000003, "endSec": 2419.8741315, "text": "music because you can just access every sound you want so it's like a lot easier than me having to go to an analog studio like I do everything in my home studio like I have a I have like two bedrooms in Bushwick I live in New York City", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 2419.8741315, "endSec": 2436.9621315, "text": "Nice. Yeah. and I one of the bedrooms is like a music studio which is it's like a home studio it's not um I don't have like a drum kit or anything like this but it's perfect for producing in the box because I just can like like access everything um I just like I call it going down the rabbit hole", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 2436.9621315, "endSec": 2445.5881315, "text": "because Yeah. like I'll just go in here for like hours and it makes it so easy for me to work into like 12 a.m sometimes", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 2445.5881315, "endSec": 2460.8881315, "text": "Yeah. you know like you're just I'm an early riser so I try not to work like past then but sometimes you just like are in flow state and suddenly yeah it's it's a crazy thing producing is one of my favorite things on the planet", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 2462.4501315, "endSec": 2482.4501315, "text": "And flow state, I think, is underutilized and underappreciated and underloved in the broader world. Like, could you imagine how much more we would create and how much happier we would be and more prosperous if we maximized our lives around like actual flow and creativity?", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 2482.4501315, "endSec": 2490.9501315, "text": "And because that that doesn't that's different kind of work. That's like a higher order work. You go into it and you come out of it feeling like.", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 2491.8901315000003, "endSec": 2502.9401315, "text": "You existed on a different plane for a while and you also are able to access levels of creativity and insight and workflows that you could have never logically thought of.", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 2503.4741315, "endSec": 2525.8241315, "text": "I think with flow state, I couldn't agree more one thing like flow state, everything you just said is so accurate to the feeling of flow state and it like, I think for me with music, it's very much like intertwined into everything I do with music and I feel like it's a at the forefront and so much of it is actually a mindset you have around the art that you do is,", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 2525.8241315, "endSec": 2558.6761315000003, "text": "Tell me more about that. I I'm curious. think I'm someone that has. like my mom is one of the most positive people I've ever met and she's just instilled this form like both of my parents have really instilled like a belief in myself that like I am from a young age always capable to achieve anything I want to do you just have to work really hard so with music it was like I I feel like when the voices inside your head are conducive to being able to be like I can do this rather than like you are not good enough", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 2558.7701315, "endSec": 2563.3701315, "text": "it like allows you to tap into other realms of creativity if that makes sense because like", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 2563.3701315, "endSec": 2583.8201315, "text": "Yep. those things a lot about the openness that you have into Yep. going into it and believing that you're capable so it's like you it's almost I meditate every day also and I feel like it's a very meditative form of um existing like every time I like go into the box it's kind of like I meditate before when I say go into the box I mean start producing", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 2584.4661315000003, "endSec": 2598.7661315, "text": "but whenever I do that I like meditate before and then like I go into the session and like I'll listen through and do whatever but like once you're like in locked in like you're totally in this like state that it's almost like nothing else exists around you", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 2598.7661315, "endSec": 2612.3761315, "text": "Yep. and i feel that way with playing music too and especially with poster girl it gets like really crazy because i feel like we all enter these like really insane we all meditate before we play together and", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 2612.3761315, "endSec": 2626.5761315, "text": "Cool. then we'll enter these like we write as a collective but the rights come writing comes from a lot of flow state like flow us like in flow state it's just a crazy experience to be as a collective and we go on these like", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 2626.6421315000002, "endSec": 2642.6921315, "text": "retreats where we go to like the Poconos we went to Maine we've gone on three of them so far but we go on them like every four to six months and it's just so incredible and when as we rise and like grow I want to be doing those like every season you", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 2642.6921315, "endSec": 2663.0101315, "text": "Yeah, absolutely. know I like that perspective every season. I don't know if I've ever had a flow state writing session in that way. A lot of my co-writes have been like way more logical than I write on my own, for better or worse, I suppose. but flow state co-writing that's really good that's really special yeah", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 2663.0101315, "endSec": 2669.7601315, "text": "yeah I feel like it happens when it comes from like playing you know like yeah you just jam and see where it goes like", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 2669.7601315, "endSec": 2676.5101315, "text": "yeah and i can't i think i felt that yep yeah you and it's just like when you jam with people I feel like you enter a state of flow", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 2676.8601315, "endSec": 2694.6301315, "text": "do yeah you very much do yeah so that's like basically we're just we're not a jam band definitely not we're like all of our music is like very through um but it's very like I mean we kind of go all over the map you've never heard all of it because none of it's out but um you", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 2694.6301315, "endSec": 2705.2301315, "text": "just will you the will you one yeah will I'm excited I really really can't wait to hear it all and I really like the way that you keep talking about the act of creating and", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 2727.88519725, "endSec": 2739.34919725, "text": "Totally. So I think that there's different sections of it. Like practicing is so important. And I feel like with say for example on practicing bass um", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 2739.34919725, "endSec": 2739.8991972500003, "text": "Yeah, totally.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 2739.8991972500003, "endSec": 2764.94919725, "text": "because with producing I feel like it's a lot of it is just doing in the moment it's different than like practicing scales on bass or like learning tunes on bass it's like very different but I feel like with bass specifically like when I go in like I want to work on things that are not the strongest thing in my playing like I don't want to just pick up the if I'm going into practice with the intention of getting better I'm going to practice things I'm not good", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 2765.16519725, "endSec": 2778.56519725, "text": "i'm not there i don't like to say good or bad i try yeah to like not yeah use those words with music but things that i have to work on like things that i actually need to develop not something that i already know how to do do you know what i'm saying i'm", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 2778.56519725, "endSec": 2784.61519725, "text": "i totally know what you're saying yeah like for lack of a better term like you're you should practice things that you're not excelling at essentially like", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 2784.61519725, "endSec": 2791.6291972500003, "text": "or you should like practice things that you're like you ever have those moments like where you're like improvising or whatever you just kind of hit that wall and now you're thinking like", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 2791.6291972500003, "endSec": 2804.02919725, "text": "yeah exactly practice that get rid of and that totally like I think a lot of it is like you don't when I play I try not to think at all so it's like when I and I think a lot of it's just preparation too it's like", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 2805.16519725, "endSec": 2831.0151972500003, "text": "if you're playing a gig or something like um you want to know everything inside and out so that you don't have to think at all and it's just like all thoughts leave your brain so then you can enter flow state and it feels like something's coming through you and sometimes I'm like I'm not playing like if something is moving through me and like I don't know what that is like that's like part of being in flow state but I try to tap into that really every time I pick up my bass and it's not even a conscious conscious", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 2831.30919725, "endSec": 2838.8591972500003, "text": "like I don't think about it actively it's just like something that it's been a practice throughout time I feel like the thing about practicing is you have to be", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 2839.4371972500003, "endSec": 2865.28719725, "text": "comfortable with not like not being good at what you're practicing you know you have to be comfortable with like I'm a big proponent of slowing things so slow like let's get so slow when we're learning something like I want to practice it incredibly slow because then when you speed it up the accuracy is crazy and then that just kind of applies to everything you do like I I was always in the school of thought that like you should", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 2865.54919725, "endSec": 2877.04919725, "text": "If you can't play something extremely slow, then you're not going to play it well fast. So you might think you play it well fast, but I bet there's like a whole ether that you're missing if you can't accurately play it slow.", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 2877.3991972500003, "endSec": 2888.59919725, "text": "I couldn't agree more. And that was one of the best and most brutal things that a bass player friend of mine taught me was like, practice with a metronome that leaves out a whole bunch of notes.", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 2889.45319725, "endSec": 2899.8031972500003, "text": "so it's like it's the downbeat every two measures three measures four measures and like try and nail that and oh my god humbling humbling", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 2900.42919725, "endSec": 2904.42919725, "text": "that stuff's really hard i like i find that stuff extremely difficult yeah especially", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 2904.42919725, "endSec": 2920.42919725, "text": "it's so hard for when me yeah you start putting it on like off beats or like the and uh like that's when in college when i was like really deep into the jazz world like i used to do things like that i'm like that is like the hardest i think those are like some of the hardest i could be playing one note and it would still be like the hardest thing i've ever practiced", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 2920.42919725, "endSec": 2933.39119725, "text": "so true well it's even just like uh i used to think that quarter notes were easy You know, it's like in the in some context, the things that seem like you're just playing four notes a bar.", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 2934.69119725, "endSec": 2944.8411972500003, "text": "Some context, it's like you really, really, really can mess that up or not do that perfectly or if you're doing it for long enough like the stamina to keep.", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 2944.8411972500003, "endSec": 2963.4191972500003, "text": "steady and locked all of those things are so underappreciated i think that's part of the reason why i do like pop music so much it's it is sneaky hard all the time it can be surface level easy but then you you have that same piece of music to somebody else who's like i could do that it's like can you i", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 2963.4191972500003, "endSec": 2974.9331972500004, "text": "can you yeah that's like why i think it's also like pop music is so fluid like i one of my favorite things about being in the prop program as i learned like like literally like a hundred james jameson bass", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 2974.9331972500004, "endSec": 3001.48319725, "text": "Exactly. lines and Exactly. those are like the and it's like you start to like learn and dissect all of this music from like early motown into modern day pop and you're like damn this there's so much depth and complexity in this music and like the vocabulary is as rich and as deep as something like the jazz world that has like i think a lot of people in the jazz realm that i encountered in college at least like did not see that and like i think i got so much out of it with understanding", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 3001.83719725, "endSec": 3019.63719725, "text": "understanding that like every genre has its own set of languages and like learn it and excel in like really really understand it to be able to implement it into your own craft and then it's like when you enter flow state like I think about when I was in the Poconos um just like", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 3020.07719725, "endSec": 3046.32719725, "text": "a month or so ago with poster girl we were jamming and we were doing prompt writing and we were like we picked a prompt and it was like let's play like this pineapple taste like it was pineapple with tahini and lemon and Zach the guitarist starts playing this like crazy riff that was like super acidic sounding and then we're like jamming in flow state and me and him are like playing in like the groove and it's like we're entering this territory and suddenly", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 3046.31719725, "endSec": 3073.6671972500003, "text": "suddenly like i'm not even kidding i feel like everything it was really one of those moments that like everything you practice like comes in like i didn't practice this bass line this bass line called like what is it's on the song what is hit by rocco prescia but suddenly that like driving like that like this driving like 16th note like rapid fire bass line just like comes through me and i was suddenly felt like i was rocco prescia like", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 3073.64519725, "endSec": 3094.39519725, "text": "like in this like living room in the poconos like it was just a really crazy moment where you're just sometimes you don't see the way that something like will like intersect into your like and it wasn't like i thought let me play like rock or press you it was like i started doing that and i was like whoa like power of power tower of power it's yeah", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 3094.89519725, "endSec": 3102.69519725, "text": "yeah i i tried to get a guitar lesson from uh i feel bad i don't remember his name right now uh played on that song um", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 3102.98919725, "endSec": 3113.78919725, "text": "Oh, amazing. The super hard because you move to the Philippines. And but I love love everything about that song. But it is so cool to be like, I don't know.", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 3113.78919725, "endSec": 3143.61319725, "text": "uh the the musical vocabulary and history and like standing on those shoulders and reaching into that bag and letting it flow through you rather than intentionally being like i am going to do this it's like no like that's just in my blood and it's going to come out sometimes in the right context um i think all of that is super respectful to all those musicians that came before and also is uh i don't know the kind of things that make me excited about long careers and like like your band of like", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 3144.33319725, "endSec": 3149.08319725, "text": "How far can it go? It can go as far as that rocket fuel will take it. I'd really believe that kind of stuff.", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 3149.33319725, "endSec": 3171.2831972500003, "text": "oh absolutely i think like anybody that's been anyone is like julia fox says this in her memoir was once a delusional dreamer and it's like i think about it like it's not delusional it's being like a visionary and like being able to tap into future versions of yourself it's like when you close your eyes and see like what you want to build towards like what is that", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 3171.18119725, "endSec": 3194.23119725, "text": "that and like being honest with yourself about it and not fearing it like i don't move with fear with anything i'm just like we are so capable of doing like we can achieve like our wildest dreams if we like work really fucking hard and believe in ourselves and of course you have to have like the ability to it's like more complex than that but like i really truly believe like", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 3194.8611972500003, "endSec": 3204.21119725, "text": "Anybody that's been anyone has been once like in a space where they could like envision that trajectory, you know.", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 3204.21119725, "endSec": 3230.85919725, "text": "and then you take the steps to get there and it's this powerful thing that like trusting the process in every single form is so fundamental to achieving whatever success you want and you see it in different iterations like a lot of people like miss the milestones along the way and that's why it's like an a to z of a vision like you don't go from playing like a small like bar to like playing red rocks overnight like that takes", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 3230.89319725, "endSec": 3237.89319725, "text": "It takes years to develop and like there's so many things along the way in the journey in a lot of ways is a destination, you know.", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 3238.44319725, "endSec": 3242.39319725, "text": "Totally. And oftentimes your journey is not going to look like everybody else's.", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 3243.8211972500003, "endSec": 3258.47119725, "text": "it will go up it will go down it will go back up again so much of it is like that grit determination belief in the vision adapting and continuing to grow like i love your focus on practice because it's super important and just keeping the antenna up", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 3258.62119725, "endSec": 3273.0491972500004, "text": "absolutely I feel like I feel like with a like practicing also and like vision and all that stuff it's it's really like a lot of it is taking out the ego from whatever you want to do You too. Like if you're going to care so much about.", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 3273.99719725, "endSec": 3278.94719725, "text": "what people are perceiving you doing rather than realizing that no one cares literally", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 3278.94719725, "endSec": 3300.34719725, "text": "Yeah. no one cares like also anybody that's like in your corner should be supporting whatever you want to do in terms of like building you know they should be like supportive of that or they're not like actually in your corner so I think it's just like a powerful thing with like practicing a mindset and determination it's like there's not like a fairy that's going to come along and like make your dreams come true it's like you have to do that and like", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 3300.17319725, "endSec": 3314.52319725, "text": "like you have to execute the vision and you have to be able to see the steps and it's like people talk about manifesting and I'm like yes 100 manifestation I think is like combination of being seeing a vision and taking the action to get to that vision and", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 3314.52319725, "endSec": 3319.87319725, "text": "Super, super well said. then like magical things happen along the way and then you're like oh this is exciting", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 3321.06919725, "endSec": 3332.56919725, "text": "So I always ask this question to all of my guests. Rani, I want to do the same thing for you. So the show is called Love Music More. Segment's called Love Music Why. Why do you love music?", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 3334.1691972500003, "endSec": 3343.06919725, "text": "Oh my god, that's such a great question. Why do I love music? I think music is a way to communicate.", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 3343.06919725, "endSec": 3366.06919725, "text": "an inner world and the world itself like not only my inner world when I create music but like other people's inner world and like the world as a whole and to understand like the life experience through sonic form that like people across space and time regardless of the language that they speak regardless of the age that they are", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 3367.40519725, "endSec": 3387.90519725, "text": "all can connect with and relate to in different iterations and different forms that's why it's like and it's such an expansive way of creating art that is I feel like an experience as much as a sonic it's an experience and you think about like you put a song out into the world", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 3388.62119725, "endSec": 3400.12119725, "text": "it might mean one thing to you but then this person maybe in brazil is listening to it and breaking down on the train crying because it like is explaining their life story with like a breakup that they're going through", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 3400.12119725, "endSec": 3407.3211972500003, "text": "Yep. you know um and is super healing i think something that's really significant with that question too is like", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 3407.88519725, "endSec": 3434.0851972500004, "text": "why why do you love music so much I think it's also like like I think about like all of my the people that have come before me that are musicians and like why that they loved it and if they didn't believe in themselves and they didn't like have the passion for music like the world would be so different and I feel that way about anybody that like feels strongly about like their path and their vision and stuff with music it's like you don't know how you're going to change the trajectory of the world like no one really knows you", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 3433.86919725, "endSec": 3449.51919725, "text": "post how someone with a musical force could do that and I think about like if um like Miles Davis never believed in himself like the world would be so different you know or Esperanza Spalding or Hades Coyote or whatever the Beatles you know it's", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 3449.51919725, "endSec": 3455.4191972500003, "text": "Yeah. just like an interesting train of thought with going into life it's a good question", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 3457.22919725, "endSec": 3475.97919725, "text": "it's it is crazy though those especially the way the world and music world is now how you can reach these people you probably never would have reached before even if you were pretty successful and then they can tell you those stories too like i don't know i've made a lot of songs and then i hear these random stories", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 3477.38919725, "endSec": 3501.28919725, "text": "it's so intensive like you'll make something you just thought was like kind of silly it's like i had a song called do what i wanna and the whole thing is like do do do do do what i wanna silly silly little song but somebody said that they were they got out of abusive relationship and that song like helped them point their way to like doing what they want with their own lives it's just like what the hell i mean all right i'll make the next song then universe like come on geez", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 3502.1251972500004, "endSec": 3510.1251972500004, "text": "it's it's one thing that's super powerful it's something that I feel like really takes yourself out of the narrative entirely too", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 3510.1251972500004, "endSec": 3528.57519725, "text": "Okay. is like thinking about it as something so much greater like when I was 15 was when like 15 16 was when things really started to flip and I started practice for like six to eight hours a day and I was on a plane from I had gone to interlock and like summer program for jazz and I was on a plane back and I was like", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 3529.13319725, "endSec": 3556.03319725, "text": "writing that in my journal I was writing like if Esperanza Spalding never believed in herself like who would I be like who would I be and I took it and I just wrote a bunch of artists I love and I was like you have to believe in yourself because you never know how you could change the trajectory of someone else's lifetime too and I feel like that's really significant in terms for anybody to take that as a philosophy of like why to do something like take yourself out of it entirely and think about like the", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 3556.17319725, "endSec": 3570.92319725, "text": "the impact that if you dare to believe in yourself and try like you have no idea how far you can get like there's like no limit and it's everybody's path is so unique if you believe in yourself like yeah I just feel like you can be limitless", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 3573.19719725, "endSec": 3575.3971972500003, "text": "Great place to leave it. yeah awesome Where can", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 3575.3971972500003, "endSec": 3575.44719725, "text": "okay", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 3575.44719725, "endSec": 3580.44719725, "text": "people get in touch? Where can they listen to Poster Girl and keep waiting for that record next year?", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 3581.09719725, "endSec": 3600.05, "text": "yes you can follow me on social media at Rani Adi and you can follow poster girl at we are poster girl and um i have a solo project under my name that's Rani Adi and poster girl also is on all streaming platforms our first single is the only thing it's out but the album should be out soon so", "speaker": "Rani Adi" }, { "startSec": 3600.05, "endSec": 3601.2451972500003, "text": "Follow us along for the journey.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 3601.39519725, "endSec": 3605.4951972500003, "text": "I can't wait. I'll be along for it too. Thank you so much for this wonderful conversation.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 3605.7451972500003, "endSec": 3608.04519725, "text": "Yeah, thank you so much for having me.", "speaker": "Rani Adi" } ], "correctionsApplied": [] }