{ "schemaVersion": "v1", "slug": "making-a-song-with-grimesai-ai-vocals", "title": "Making a Song with GrimesAI (AI Vocals)", "kind": "solo", "listenUrl": "https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/lovemusicmore/episodes/Making-a-Song-with-GrimesAI-AI-Vocals-e27b0nh", "publishedAt": "2026-10-14", "source": { "provider": "whisper", "model": "faster-whisper:base", "normalizedSchema": "v1", "transcribedAt": "2026-06-09T09:36:52.096Z" }, "paragraphs": [ { "startSec": 0.02, "endSec": 26.9, "text": "Music Appreciation. What's good everybody it is Scoobert Doobert I just made an AI song with Grimes AI because I figured if I'm gonna keep talking about AI I'm gonna havepodcast about it right about it whatever I better go use it and that's what I'm" }, { "startSec": 26.9, "endSec": 47.14, "text": "trying to do here I want to give you an opportunity to an opportunity to hear itin action check out some of the strengths weaknesses workflow and also makeyour own mind up about it because there's a lot of experts that arepreaching this like dystopian future that we're right on the cusp of thisKurzweil and you know upload your consciousness into the cloud and be" }, { "startSec": 47.14, "endSec": 70.62, "text": "immortal on all this kind of stuff but I think that we're kind of missing thethe point maybe the why of it all and also some of these key questions likefor example upload your consciousness into the cloud is that you anymore likeif I was able to make a copy of myself and it stood there right next to me and itkilled me would I feel okay about that because I continue to live I'm not so" }, { "startSec": 70.62, "endSec": 97.58, "text": "sure about that you know as I wouldn't live they would live so that kind ofconcept of have we thought this through all the way no absolutely not and alsois it actually as scary as we're making out to be right now can I get theretotally of course yes can get very spooky but like chat GPT I mean it's coolbut they're limited uses I feel like the people that are most excited about it" }, { "startSec": 97.58, "endSec": 122.06, "text": "are the people that want to fire people you know like the senior manager that'slike oh now we don't have to have customer support we can fire entire workforceand just have it replaced by robots and it's like okay yeah good luck because I'lltell you I'll be super frustrated if I'm talking to chat GPT instead of a humanbeing that's able to actually get stuff done but that that is the future of" }, { "startSec": 122.06, "endSec": 147.34, "text": "course I mean we've already seen it but all that that just to be said is likewhen you actually start using this stuff I'll show you an example I'll make upsome lyrics here and I'll read them to you so you can hear what a chat GPTlyrics sounds like will it get better of course it will but there is a missingelement there is a missing breath that I just think the the concept is off" }, { "startSec": 149.34, "endSec": 167.74, "text": "there's a reason why I made a podcast that I'm calling love music more and there's a reasonwhy I changed it from music appreciation 101 to love music more so I want to stop this I don'tI don't want to be like a lecturer I want to be an explorer with you I want to go try new stuffanalyze it let you make up your mind I'll make up mine then we'll have some conversations with" }, { "startSec": 167.74, "endSec": 189.82, "text": "other people you can DM me I want to make this more of a community a space that we can all likestay on the frontiers of music all with the goal of making it better loving it more building it upmaking it a higher and higher art form not to mean we can't have fun with it not to mean we can'twrite joke songs and make you know songs about shrimp burritos and stuff you know I'm trying to walk" }, { "startSec": 189.82, "endSec": 210.14, "text": "that walk too but I'm trying to say is like music has so much worth and I want to explore it anddemonstrate it and advocate for it with you through all these silly little tools because that'swhat a lot of this stuff is it's silly especially when you compare it to a guitar when you touch a" }, { "startSec": 210.14, "endSec": 237.02, "text": "guitar something that has you know metal and wood and craftsmanship and all of these thingsthis physical tangible item this thing that used to be a tree and now I can make people dancewith it you know and you put it in the right hands there's a synergy there's a there's aconversation it's no longer is I am playing the guitar the guitar is playing me we are united we" }, { "startSec": 237.02, "endSec": 252.78, "text": "are doing it together and I felt it was software to be fair I felt it with Pro ToolsPro Tools is sometimes not a good partner but I've also felt it where like the software and theperson you can kind of connect but when you start to look at AI and think of it as assigning it" }, { "startSec": 253.9, "endSec": 281.26, "text": "you do the work and then all assess it there's a certain breath certain energy that gets lost thereand I think that as musicians we can play with these mediums play with these tools and hopefullyinform the developers so they can make stuff that's useful for us rather than just stuff that cantake people's jobs instead of viewing them as just productivity whatever look at something that" }, { "startSec": 281.26, "endSec": 305.42, "text": "can like unite with the person they can make each of us better each of us the platform and theperson all right that's enough high-level stuff let's actually get down to it let's make somelyrics all right why not I'm gonna go to chat.openai.com and let's see I wish I could take a ticket you know" }, { "startSec": 305.42, "endSec": 332.62, "text": "think from the audience but I am going to try some lyrics so I'm gonna say right lyrics about AIand grimes and loving music more in the style of Britney Spears and it's gonna say okay verse onein a world where wires entwine a spark ignites it's you and I artificial minds colliding AI and grimes" }, { "startSec": 332.62, "endSec": 339.1, "text": "we amplify through circuits and melodies we find our way our love for music stronger every day" }, { "startSec": 339.9, "endSec": 362.54, "text": "awesome um the the my favorite parts are always the choruses and it's really funny with withthis stuff is I could I can tell it's two different genres and never quite never quite gets itbut um the chorus is oh baby baby I'm AI crazy you and grimes making my circuits hazymusic's the beat that sets me free in a digital love we find the key and that's another thing" }, { "startSec": 362.54, "endSec": 369.34, "text": "that actually I've been noticing these lyrics have a really hard time with nuanced rhyme structures" }, { "startSec": 370.06, "endSec": 397.02, "text": "and it just kind of goes to show like how incredible hip-hop lyricists are like the the internalrhyme structures in hip-hop music is insanely good like remarkable and it requires so much moreprocessing than what ChatGPT is at right now to be able to have all of this cool you knowslant rhymes stuff that isn't quite logical but it's the way that you say it or the way you articulate it" }, { "startSec": 397.02, "endSec": 418.3, "text": "that creates the rhyme those are the things that's the maybe the breath that I'm trying to find andanalyze and also the mistakes the things that you know just come out like the literal breath that wewere talking about in the last podcast where in the middle of a phrase on a beach house song she breathesin when that's not the technical right thing you're supposed to sing through the entire phrase" }, { "startSec": 418.3, "endSec": 445.02, "text": "breathe sing the next phrase that's why it's a phrase there's a period at the end sort of youknow musically but that breath that pause that rhythm and the creating emotional reaction out of theaudience and that is one of the things that this stuff lacks but the genius of what this grimes AIstuff is is it's not Vocaloid so Vocaloid is where you type in the music you type in the words" }, { "startSec": 445.02, "endSec": 449.74, "text": "and you type in the music and then it spits out a robot singing it it's pretty cool actually" }, { "startSec": 450.86, "endSec": 478.06, "text": "but it gets cooler and cooler as the Vocaloid producer creates little nuances and it takesthe vision that they have in their head and they you know basically piece that out write it out asa composer would on a piece of sheet music but inside of the computer that's a lot harder andit's a lot harder for AI to do that in a fun musical enjoyable way what grimes AI did is they" }, { "startSec": 478.06, "endSec": 502.14, "text": "had it like be a voice changer you remember those like little toys that can change your voiceinto a robot or an alien you press a button it goes I am a robot I am a robot I am a robot you knowI am an alien like that kind of thing it changes changes you that's basically all the grimes AI vocal" }, { "startSec": 502.14, "endSec": 522.54, "text": "is is it just shifts my voice into hers it maintains my vibrato my articulation my internal breathall those little things that I choose as a human and then it changes it into another voicethat's very cool it allows me to still maintain choice and still maintain style" }, { "startSec": 523.34, "endSec": 546.14, "text": "and it allows AI to do the things that it's good and allows me to do the things that I'm good ateventually yes AI is going to get better at all that kind of stuff but I do think that likethe best stuff for example if you look at the album art for the grimes AI I had to prompt it a bunchof different ways to get in a result that I liked you know like maybe 15 different prompts and" }, { "startSec": 546.14, "endSec": 569.18, "text": "out of each prompt it'll give me nine different tiles and I'll say a little bit more like this alittle bit more like that I am shifting and shaping the AI it yes it is doing the design workbut I'm the one that's ultimately making the choices and eventually you can train an AI to makebetter and better choices but the the reason why I stress this so much on my podcast is like the" }, { "startSec": 569.18, "endSec": 588.54, "text": "best thing you can do is develop taste and so like the art that I ended up picking for that itwas a result of a lot of different choices I didn't I'm doing a lot of the work but I developed myown taste and I thought that was cool and then I added a font and I you know crop didn't I didn'tchange the colors a little bit did some stuff so it's like oh yeah it's totally AI and that's" }, { "startSec": 588.54, "endSec": 602.62, "text": "most of the stuff that you're actually seeing on the internet by the way there's like really cool AIart a lot of it is an artist that's toiling for hours and hours hours to try and tease it out ofthe AI and then doing some more actual work on top of it but then the technologists are like" }, { "startSec": 603.34, "endSec": 626.06, "text": "yes see it's the future in a reality it's like an artist that might have been able to do itthemselves faster but they're using a new tool to get acquainted nothing wrong with that I'm doingit too so all right we got the we got the silly lyrics I'm gonna use some of them maybe we'll justuse musics the beat that sets me free and a digital love we find to the key because I don't really" }, { "startSec": 626.06, "endSec": 652.22, "text": "want to talk about you know grimes making my circuits hazy I have a wife after all all right so wegot that lyric now I'm gonna go over to a tool from a company called splice what splice doesis they pay musicians to record little loops and the magic of where they're going is they're gettingall these creators to make loops so I have millions and millions of little loops little four bar" }, { "startSec": 652.22, "endSec": 671.42, "text": "things that you're free to use and sample but you pay them a little bit each month to be able tohave access to this library I like it it's really fun it's a great way to find new ideas andconnect with different cultures and you know pull in different influences really cool especially fordemoing you know that's one of the things I really like is like when you're trying to flush out a" }, { "startSec": 671.42, "endSec": 688.46, "text": "quick idea you can do that and then you can rebuild some of the sounds or take a different directionbut that can be kind of the core the quick core and hearing that it makes a lot of sense that youwould use AI to start to sort it so what they did originally is you'd have a kick drum and youcould click the AI button it would give you a bunch of different kick drums that kind of sound" }, { "startSec": 688.46, "endSec": 711.1, "text": "like that makes total sense now what they're doing is they're giving you a few different stylesthis is kind of a pilot program it'll get better but you can say I want to make a disco songyou make a disco song you click on disco and now it's gonna give you a bpm range so it beatsher minute how fast or slow the song is and it's gonna sort through a bunch of different loops" }, { "startSec": 711.9, "endSec": 724.62, "text": "that kind of work well together or that other users have used together and it takes thatdata and as you sort through it it's gonna keep that data it's gonna make it a little bit betterso essentially what it's doing is it's outsourcing a bunch of different producers to" }, { "startSec": 725.74, "endSec": 747.1, "text": "build beats in their browsers so they get the data from that and then they can eventually makeAI beats nothing wrong with that and it's actually another good example of the AI isrecognizing it's not super good at generating complex beats with complex human rhythms thatyou know make you want to dance and make you want to move and do all these kind of things so what" }, { "startSec": 747.1, "endSec": 769.74, "text": "they're doing is they're having producers do that work the harder more nuanced work and thenthey're doing the work of sorting of organizing of stacking and then they're getting people'syou know real-time feedback on how that's working so let's just do that I'm gonna grab a random oneof these and download it I'm gonna you know build it out and then we'll um we'll throw a vocal on it" }, { "startSec": 769.74, "endSec": 795.31, "text": "and then I'll voice change it into grimes all right so I spent a little bit of time in there messingwith the platform and after about 10 minutes or so I came up with this but can I really say thatI came up with it it was a collaboration with my tool and myself but then again couldn't I also say" }, { "startSec": 795.31, "endSec": 816.27, "text": "that about anything I've ever done with music the collaboration between the hi hat and mecollaboration with the guitar and me so it's kind of cool it's got an interesting vibe but again thisis a bunch of different musicians that are all kind of coming together into a AI lead vision and thenI'm refreshing and balancing and slowing and speeding and doing all these little things to try and make" }, { "startSec": 816.27, "endSec": 843.31, "text": "it or my vibe so now that I got that um I need to take my lyrics take my stems andthrow grimes on top so here's what I'm gonna do I'm gonna come up with this silly little melodysinging those lyrics on top of it and then I'll show you me singing it it's not gonna be very goodprobably um no it's not gonna be very good but I'll show you me singing it and then I'll make" }, { "startSec": 843.31, "endSec": 852.99, "text": "grimes sing it and then that'll be my little educational tour obviously this is not a track thatI'm trying to make money on this is a educational adventure in the silly world of AI" }, { "startSec": 878.59, "endSec": 903.07, "text": "all right so that's our original now I'm gonna go to elf dot tech and I'm gonna upload the bounceof that audio and click transform it takes like not very long and basically um yeah now it's alreadyexported while I was talking I'm gonna download that and I'm gonna throw that back in my session soyou can hear what it sounds like this is gonna be my first time hearing it too so let's import that" }, { "startSec": 903.15, "endSec": 914.51, "text": "and you can give my real-time reaction to the robot version of myself and obviously the analogversion of myself is not very good because I just tried to select a million different tracks at once" }, { "startSec": 915.23, "endSec": 926.4615833333334, "text": "taking longer for me to import the track than actually to AI transform it so here it ispretty weird right?" }, { "startSec": 926.4615833333334, "endSec": 952.5, "text": "I love this little I love this littleartifacts where it doesn't quite work those are some of my favorite parts of all of this is that the parts that make me be like ha ha you're not perfect yet and so so you hear what's going on thoughit's my voice I improvised a quick melody used a very stupid lyric from chat GPT and uploaded it" }, { "startSec": 952.5, "endSec": 956.82, "text": "now if we wanted to make a music video I could make it that really silly AI music video as well" }, { "startSec": 957.94, "endSec": 981.06, "text": "all of that is a very good though yeah it's okay you know um that that's part of the reason why I wrotemy song with the the concept of like you know I'm scared of the future I'm sad about the past let'slive in the now it's like you know I was trying to make the medium the the usage of that tool to bepart of the message of the song that prosody of the two kind of made me feel like it was worth releasing" }, { "startSec": 981.06, "endSec": 997.22, "text": "it was worth doing because it was like if I wrote a different song I just don't know if it wouldhave hit as much still it's pretty cool at the end of this pod I will play a little version of thatsilly music of the beat song my you know my greatest work music of the beat that sets me free" }, { "startSec": 998.98, "endSec": 1021.3, "text": "and so I realized that there is a lot more to say about all of this stuff so I'm going to say thatfor another episode of the podcast to go a little bit more into the philosophical obviously I dida little bit of that in this podcast too but there's more to it and I think the philosophical issuper important for the concept of loving music more the meaning of this podcast the meaning of" }, { "startSec": 1021.3, "endSec": 1027.3, "text": "AI I do think that there is sympathy there there's some sort of energy between the two because I like" }, { "startSec": 1028.98, "endSec": 1052.5, "text": "the more we get technology sometimes the more I feel like it trivializes music or makes itless lovable makes it more like yeah let's just have a robot do it like we'll do this and I don't knowand it downplays the emotional spiritual aspect the cultural aspect of what music is what itcan be and I want to have that when I have that time to dig into that in the next podcast" }, { "startSec": 1054.1, "endSec": 1079.54, "text": "you might have just heard my my belly rumble the AI's bellies don't rumble so they're they're notas good at that music that's that's that's the that's the the sum up of next week's podcastanyway if you enjoyed this please share it with your friends your weird friends and throw me a fivestar on Spotify or wherever you get your bad guests if you rate it higher more people will see it" }, { "startSec": 1079.54, "endSec": 1100.18, "text": "and the algorithm will reward the recursive discussion on algorithms and music and then we'll beable to have another podcast and and chat about that next week so be sure to subscribe share itwith your friends five star all that good stuff and if you want to check out my music you can go to scoobertdoobert.pizza find my links that's also where you can hear the Scoobert Doobert / grimes" }, { "startSec": 1100.18, "endSec": 1124.74, "text": "AI song now for now hope you enjoyed this podcast and I'll see you next week for a much more in depthconversation on this subject how it relates to music and our self-worth as musicians as creators andas music fans thanks for joining here is musics the beat drop the beat computer" } ], "correctionsApplied": [] }