{ "schemaVersion": "v1", "slug": "gustav-brunn", "title": "Studios in Compulsory School, Winning Swedish Grammys, and Filling the Vessel with Gustav Brunn", "kind": "interview", "listenUrl": "https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/lovemusicmore/episodes/Studios-in-Compulsory-School--Winning-Swedish-Grammys--and-Filling-the-Vessel-with-Gustav-Brunn-e2nc6r0", "contentStartSec": 164.66, "publishedAt": "2026-10-14", "source": { "provider": "openai", "model": "gpt-4o-transcribe-diarize", "normalizedSchema": "v1", "transcribedAt": "2026-06-09T21:04:08.395Z" }, "paragraphs": [ { "startSec": 164.66, "endSec": 190.36, "text": "What's good, everybody? Welcome back to Love Music More. I am Scoobert Doobert, and I am joined with Gustav Brunn, who is going to take us on his journey across live bands and his love of Southern California all the way from Southern Sweden and then take us into the studio and across live sound and just this varied musical career, all in the goal of making you guys love music more. So welcome, Gustav.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 190.36, "endSec": 191.638, "text": "Thank you for joining us.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 192.18800000000002, "endSec": 195.788, "text": "Amazing. Thank you. Well, I have to deliver as well, right?", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 196.088, "endSec": 196.588, "text": "Yeah, no,", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 196.588, "endSec": 196.68800000000002, "text": "I'm", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 196.68800000000002, "endSec": 196.888, "text": "you do.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 196.888, "endSec": 199.338, "text": "going to talk shit for more.", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 199.888, "endSec": 199.93800000000002, "text": "Exactly.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 199.93800000000002, "endSec": 207.88199999999998, "text": "Amazing. It's great to be here. And like I told you before, it's my first podcast. Be gentle, be", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 207.88199999999998, "endSec": 208.082, "text": "Yes.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 208.082, "endSec": 208.432, "text": "nice.", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 208.432, "endSec": 213.832, "text": "Oh, I will. This podcast is known for hard hitting hot takes and a lot of tension.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 214.63199999999998, "endSec": 223.182, "text": "So how did you get started with music and also where are you right now just so the listeners can get a sense of the global nature of this conversation over the internet?", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 223.182, "endSec": 256.648, "text": "Absolutely. So I am located, I am located, yeah, I'm in Lund in the south of Sweden. Count of Skåne, which is like the Texas of Sweden, just geographically mostly. But the very south of Sweden in my studio, I mostly do mixing and mastering here. You can see some guitars, you can see some other shit. But so that's where I am and like how I started with like what I where I", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 256.648, "endSec": 259.448, "text": "yo what hooked you how'd you get the bug", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 260.564, "endSec": 261.564, "text": "The music bug.", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 261.714, "endSec": 261.964, "text": "You The", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 261.964, "endSec": 262.11400000000003, "text": "know,", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 262.11400000000003, "endSec": 262.564, "text": "music bug.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 262.564, "endSec": 284.514, "text": "I've been thinking about it many times and I remember like like none of my parents were musicians. My father had a guitar tuned in an open chord so he could play slide guitar and it was also kind of good to it was easier to play because it would like be a major chord if you just held your finger.", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 285.076, "endSec": 285.076, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 285.076, "endSec": 311.902, "text": "So I guess, you know, it was standing there and of course I was intrigued. And then he made me like the first, he told me the first song I played was, it's a Rolling Stones song. It's like, take me to the station, put me, got no expectations, it's called. It's like five, five, five, five, zero, five, five, five, five, seven. 5-5, yeah, that's great.", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 311.902, "endSec": 312.352, "text": "Perfect.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 312.352, "endSec": 330.302, "text": "And my mother, she played a lot of music at home. She grew up in Brazil, so there was a lot of Latin music coming from her speakers, and both had vinyl collections with the big...", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 330.302, "endSec": 372.474, "text": "covers that were intriguing you saw them standing there like what is this so there i mean i had access to music and this is by the way in the 40s i'm 90 years old no but um yeah so it was like vinyls i'm born 87 so cassettes and vinyls and cds but we had mostly vinyls um and You know, both were like music consumers, listeners, music lovers, but nothing more than that. And then I, okay, this is it, two movies,", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 372.974, "endSec": 373.774, "text": "Two movies.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 374.174, "endSec": 375.624, "text": "Terminator 2.", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 375.874, "endSec": 376.274, "text": "Yes!", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 378.964, "endSec": 380.364, "text": "and Wayne's World you", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 380.364, "endSec": 381.264, "text": "Yes.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 381.264, "endSec": 409.068, "text": "know because I was I think both came in 93 94 92 94 some somewhere in between and I was like five six and we could watch you know we watched Alien so like my parents would let me watch anything but but Terminator 2 I think it guns and roses the the the shot where Arnold Schwarzenegger rides the motorcycle down the LA River and It's like a Guns N' Roses song from the from", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 409.068, "endSec": 409.568, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 409.568, "endSec": 425.068, "text": "Use Your Illusion, I think. I can't remember which one, but it's like how can you not just, you know, love it? And of course, and Wayne's World. I remember clearly you've seen Wayne's World.", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 425.068, "endSec": 425.968, "text": "Yes, of course. Party", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 425.968, "endSec": 426.168, "text": "Amazing.", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 426.168, "endSec": 426.318, "text": "on.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 426.718, "endSec": 437.162, "text": "Otherwise, I would just hang up on you. But when they go to the Alice Cooper concert, and I remember feeling like, what am I? What is this dangerous", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 437.162, "endSec": 437.662, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 437.662, "endSec": 438.462, "text": "thing", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 438.462, "endSec": 438.912, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 438.912, "endSec": 462.05, "text": "that sounds cool and looks like nothing I've ever seen? And I remember me and my, I have a big brother. He's like 20 months older than me, so quite close in age. And I remember we had these like teddy bears, like what do you call them? Goose ear. cuddle bear whatever Yeah, yeah", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 462.05, "endSec": 463.35, "text": "teddy bear like stuffed", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 463.35, "endSec": 463.45, "text": "and", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 463.45, "endSec": 463.6, "text": "animal.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 463.6, "endSec": 465.7, "text": "and we and we took pencils", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 466.05, "endSec": 466.5, "text": "Yeah", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 466.5, "endSec": 480.126, "text": "and uh and started a band with our uh with our teddy teddy bears so like you could play guitar if you had it like this and then he had like two so he could play drums and then we like played to played along to songs that had a band called", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 480.126, "endSec": 480.526, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 480.526, "endSec": 481.876, "text": "the Fuzz Bears don't", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 481.876, "endSec": 482.726, "text": "The Fuzz Bears.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 482.726, "endSec": 491.32599999999996, "text": "steal it if you go on Spotify there's probably seven bands called the Fuzz Bears one is a stoner rock band with a um and", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 492.626, "endSec": 517.168, "text": "so we were and like me and my brother we were yeah you know you you just want to discover stuff and music and And we grew up quite poor, so we couldn't go and buy CDs. Like a CD was 150 kroner. That was a lot of money for us then. But we lived on top of a secondhand vinyl store. Like really,", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 517.168, "endSec": 517.468, "text": "No", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 517.468, "endSec": 517.568, "text": "this", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 517.568, "endSec": 518.068, "text": "way. Really.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 518.068, "endSec": 519.318, "text": "is the entrance to our apartment", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 519.318, "endSec": 519.3679999999999, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 519.3679999999999, "endSec": 531.904, "text": "and to the left is a secondhand vinyl store. So I remember when I, I think I turned 10 and I... or like nine or eight or whatever I am I wanted the Alice Cooper album hey stupid", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 532.054, "endSec": 532.504, "text": "Cool.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 533.154, "endSec": 538.754, "text": "I think I think I didn't get it I think I got like best of Alice Cooper and", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 538.754, "endSec": 539.2040000000001, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 539.2040000000001, "endSec": 549.554, "text": "the song wasn't on it it was like schools out like from the 70s I'm like what is this lame thing I wanted hey stupid anyway I'm super grateful anyway and I think I", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 551.252, "endSec": 555.352, "text": "And from there it was like you would go down there and just browse the hard rock and", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 555.352, "endSec": 555.8019999999999, "text": "Mm-hmm.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 555.8019999999999, "endSec": 559.252, "text": "be like Iron Maiden, like what is like the most beautiful artwork,", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 559.252, "endSec": 559.5519999999999, "text": "Yes.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 559.5519999999999, "endSec": 578.502, "text": "colorful, dangerous and you just I could stand there for just watching. I had no clue but then my best friend, the guy I told you we're going to segue into that later who moved to San Diego, he lived on the same street as me and he had an even older brother who were like into...", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 578.502, "endSec": 588.484, "text": "So he would play music and we would like steal his when he wasn't home we would sneak into his room and like put on He had like of course bridge against the machine I", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 588.484, "endSec": 588.984, "text": "Yeah", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 590.684, "endSec": 597.21, "text": "Think every generation goes through a Rage Against the Machine phase and", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 597.21, "endSec": 597.51, "text": "Yeah,", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 597.51, "endSec": 597.86, "text": "like a", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 597.86, "endSec": 597.91, "text": "totally.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 597.91, "endSec": 598.51, "text": "Nirvana phase but", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 598.51, "endSec": 599.11, "text": "Of course, yeah.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 599.11, "endSec": 612.8580000000001, "text": "but and like bad religion and and a bunch of other stuff so then it quickly like then I knew like okay I'm gonna play guitar I need to I need to learn how to make this these crazy sounds from", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 612.8580000000001, "endSec": 613.408, "text": "was it", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 613.408, "endSec": 613.4580000000001, "text": "that", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 613.4580000000001, "endSec": 626.058, "text": "that original guitar that made you be like i want to play guitar out of all the you know instrumentation like this stuff has got really heavy drums it's got vocals all these things what was it because you had access to that guitar that made you be like i want to do that", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 626.408, "endSec": 633.862, "text": "great question i never actually thought about it but it's a valid question i think it must have been Because like my dad had an electric guitar.", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 633.862, "endSec": 635.312, "text": "Yeah, right. Access.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 635.912, "endSec": 645.812, "text": "It's a good question. Because my brother started playing the drums later, maybe because if we both play guitar, it's hard to have some, I don't know.", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 645.812, "endSec": 645.912, "text": "Right.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 645.912, "endSec": 667.708, "text": "But it's a good question. And then... From there, like I know, and then I when my my grand my grandpa he passed in like 97. I was 10 or 11 90 I think 97 or 96 then my dad got like out yeah some money from from his what do you hear what", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 667.708, "endSec": 667.958, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 667.958, "endSec": 668.258, "text": "do you call it", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 668.258, "endSec": 668.408, "text": "Inheritance.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 668.408, "endSec": 671.058, "text": "inheritance exactly not", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 671.058, "endSec": 671.708, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 671.708, "endSec": 694.8539999999999, "text": "a lot but but i think the first thing he did was to go to the music store and get me a squire stratcaster and like a fender frontman i love him for that changed my life and then i would just plug in my guitar and like turn the game all the way up and then just and then just do like like this imagine with like tons of gain and do like and", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 698.3539999999999, "endSec": 709.1039999999999, "text": "it would almost sound like in we mountain almost and then I of course you sort of play like do do do do do do like breaking", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 709.1039999999999, "endSec": 709.254, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 709.254, "endSec": 711.504, "text": "the law and like one note stuff like", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 711.504, "endSec": 711.754, "text": "Right.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 711.754, "endSec": 712.8539999999999, "text": "Black Sabbath stuff so", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 712.8539999999999, "endSec": 713.304, "text": "Yep.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 714.904, "endSec": 722.022, "text": "that's sort of how I It was the hard rock got", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 722.022, "endSec": 722.472, "text": "Yeah,", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 722.472, "endSec": 722.522, "text": "me", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 722.522, "endSec": 722.722, "text": "yeah.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 722.722, "endSec": 726.228, "text": "into music, I'd say, like wanting to play music. and", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 726.228, "endSec": 726.678, "text": "i love", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 726.678, "endSec": 727.078, "text": "from there", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 727.078, "endSec": 727.3779999999999, "text": "yeah", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 727.3779999999999, "endSec": 728.328, "text": "yeah go", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 728.328, "endSec": 728.578, "text": "i", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 728.578, "endSec": 728.7779999999999, "text": "ahead yeah", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 728.7779999999999, "endSec": 752.928, "text": "love how you um kind of like highlighted these things like music as these like little magical items these like artifacts you like hold up this vinyl i feel like sometimes you know we lose that or we lose that childhood wonder or whatever when you like pick up an instrument be like the magic that's inside of this thing or um the danger of like hard rock music and like the aggressive colorful album covers like all that stuff it's really cool it's like", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 752.884, "endSec": 759.734, "text": "like fun to like rethink of that because i felt the same thing but sometimes you lose that you like lose like that's what it was like looking through the eyes of a child", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 759.734, "endSec": 760.734, "text": "at yeah exactly there's", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 760.734, "endSec": 762.134, "text": "this thing that we still do yeah", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 762.134, "endSec": 770.634, "text": "also just a dramatic me but but also like talking about it makes me go back and I love it you know for such such big moments", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 771.156, "endSec": 771.506, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 771.5559999999999, "endSec": 772.2059999999999, "text": "for me and", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 772.2059999999999, "endSec": 772.606, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 772.606, "endSec": 780.5559999999999, "text": "and then like and then my my best friend who lived on the same street who had a brother with a bad religion record that moved San Diego that guy he", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 780.5559999999999, "endSec": 780.906, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 780.906, "endSec": 788.21, "text": "he also started playing guitar and he got a black I got a white like off-white square strat and", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 788.21, "endSec": 788.26, "text": "Cool.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 788.26, "endSec": 811.702, "text": "he got like a black square strat I was like man yours is black mine is white but and then we started I think in like fifth grade we you started having music lessons in third or fourth grade I think oh and it takes me back I remember we would in the music class we would like learn how to play guitar so like Like 15 kids would sit in a circle with", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 811.702, "endSec": 812.202, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 812.202, "endSec": 813.052, "text": "an acoustic guitar and", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 813.052, "endSec": 813.552, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 813.552, "endSec": 828.2620000000001, "text": "play like Hang down your head Tom Dooley hang down your head and cry like DG a7 and I remember it's fucking hard so", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 828.2620000000001, "endSec": 828.812, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 828.812, "endSec": 833.062, "text": "i would like i would wait on the d until it came again you know like hang", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 833.062, "endSec": 833.1120000000001, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 833.1120000000001, "endSec": 844.412, "text": "down your head tom cry and then i would eventually learn like the ecg and then yeah whatever now i fucking shred hell's", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 844.412, "endSec": 845.0120000000001, "text": "Hell yeah.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 845.0120000000001, "endSec": 861.278, "text": "getting but um And then we started a band and we found some classmates and we wanted to play like hard rock and they were like, we want to play blues rock and they were like, so lame. So we took some like", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 861.278, "endSec": 861.378, "text": "Get", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 861.378, "endSec": 872.4780000000001, "text": "of that and found another drummer and a bass player and then we had our first band in year 2000, I think, 13,", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 872.4780000000001, "endSec": 872.9780000000001, "text": "heavy.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 872.9780000000001, "endSec": 891.368, "text": "yeah. then quickly it segued quickly because we never had a singer i remember we we had my brother played drum no a guy named nils played drums and my no nils played drums i mean uh like a drum drums two guitars bass and we're like no one can sing like bruce dickinson what", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 891.368, "endSec": 891.518, "text": "yeah", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 891.518, "endSec": 891.768, "text": "are we gonna", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 891.768, "endSec": 891.868, "text": "right", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 891.868, "endSec": 892.018, "text": "do", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 892.018, "endSec": 893.0680000000001, "text": "yeah what are we gonna do", "speaker": "Luke F. 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Walton" }, { "startSec": 902.868, "endSec": 908.8180000000001, "text": "Exactly. And then, so we probably were this amazing place called Hemgården, which is like a youth center.", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 908.9680000000001, "endSec": 909.518, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 910.118, "endSec": 921.368, "text": "We're going to talk much more about that later, but where we found the practice base cost like nothing to be like a member for two dollars per year and then you", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 921.368, "endSec": 921.668, "text": "that's cool.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 921.668, "endSec": 922.2180000000001, "text": "know, subsidized.", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 922.2180000000001, "endSec": 924.2180000000001, "text": "That's great. Yeah.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 925.172, "endSec": 929.172, "text": "And then like we had like you have a lot like allocated time like", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 929.172, "endSec": 929.3720000000001, "text": "Mm", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 929.3720000000001, "endSec": 929.6220000000001, "text": "Tuesdays", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 929.6220000000001, "endSec": 929.722, "text": "-hmm.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 929.722, "endSec": 931.072, "text": "at 7", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 931.322, "endSec": 931.922, "text": "Mm-hmm.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 931.922, "endSec": 945.022, "text": "and so the the band who came in after us every week were like these like, you know crust punks, you know like fucking leather jackets and like all these yeah back patches and like, you know discharge and once", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 945.022, "endSec": 945.522, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 945.522, "endSec": 960.844, "text": "like they came like came into our room and then like the other guys in their band were late so we're like can we just play one with them and then we like it was like good vibes no no hard feelings but", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 960.844, "endSec": 961.4440000000001, "text": "Yeah, yeah,", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 961.4440000000001, "endSec": 970.4440000000001, "text": "then we're like hey wouldn't you like I was like I have this new riff like can't you just take the mics and like I don't know scream or something and", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 970.4440000000001, "endSec": 970.7940000000001, "text": "yeah.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 970.7940000000001, "endSec": 984.34, "text": "it was like a more of an up-tempo thing and we played it and they just because they had just renovated the practice space it was like this this it was in the basement so like this window up here and", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 984.34, "endSec": 984.89, "text": "Mm-hmm.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 984.89, "endSec": 1002.04, "text": "you have to take like off this thing to access the window and like the the guy who installed like the handyman had written like lift up pull out but in Swedish luft up luft up drag out and and like", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 1003.092, "endSec": 1017.842, "text": "had written a message like you know please take kids please take care of your practice space it's lovely and renovated kind regards the handyman so there would be like like It's up to you!", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 1018.592, "endSec": 1027.392, "text": "like really like and just like that's verse one and the chorus and that was amazing and then we and then they joined our band and we we became up and we became a punk band", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 1027.392, "endSec": 1027.492, "text": "Amazing.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 1027.492, "endSec": 1028.392, "text": "instead which was amazing", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 1028.392, "endSec": 1030.394, "text": "Amazing. I love that.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 1030.394, "endSec": 1032.794, "text": "That was my first two bands.", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 1033.094, "endSec": 1033.644, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 1034.794, "endSec": 1036.394, "text": "Now for a quick commercial break music.", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 1036.394, "endSec": 1036.844, "text": "Yeah, exactly.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 1036.844, "endSec": 1037.544, "text": "But yeah.", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 1037.926, "endSec": 1061.576, "text": "Hey everybody, Scoobert Doobert here. I'm excited to announce my new record, I, as in the letter I. It is available on all streaming platforms now as well as on Bandcamp with high-res .wav files. So usually you hear the compressed MP3s or things to the streaming services, these .wav files, they sound the best. They absolutely do. It is science. I'm actually going to be posting a blog article about why.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 1061.576, "endSec": 1068.252, "text": "Hey, waves sound better than MP3s and that leads me to my next topic. I started a blog and we are pressing vinyl.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 1068.252, "endSec": 1087.152, "text": "So whoever is subscribed to the blog is going to get first dibs on the limited edition vinyls. We're talking like some super, super limited edition. I think they're only doing like 10 or 15 of the, you know, top shelf stuff and then there will be other really cool colorways as well. But the whole vinyl run is not that big because I'm not that big, you know, hopefully someday we'll be able to press more.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 1087.152, "endSec": 1106.946, "text": "But until then, you got to jump on it now. Now, so join the blog, join that mailing list. It's all free and then you'll be able to get first dibs on that vinyl of I as it's being pressed. And on that blog, we're also going to be doing stuff for like show notes and other musical topics that require a little bit more visual component.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 1106.946, "endSec": 1118.1996561743342, "text": "So for example, I just did a pod not too long ago on musical notation throughout the history. It'd be kind of cool to see like what it actually looks like throughout history, right? And that's what the blog's here for.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 1118.1996561743342, "endSec": 1138.616, "text": "It will hit your emails just like every Tuesday morning is kind of what we're looking at, and it'll just be a nice extra little way to love music more, expand the understanding from the podcast, and also hook you up with some exclusive perks like first dibs on vinyl records. So anyway, check out the new music. Hopefully subscribe to that sub stack.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 1138.616, "endSec": 1151.15, "text": "You'll find the link in my show notes or you could go to love music more dot sub stack. dot com to sign up today and we'll uh we'll send you some emails So enjoy the music and enjoy the rest of the episode.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 1151.15, "endSec": 1157.9211462450594, "text": "I mean, that's also like a great example of like the community that those community spaces or practice spaces in my situation, it was like churches.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 1157.9211462450594, "endSec": 1175.812399884315, "text": "We would have these like little rec rooms and churches and we'd take them over and beg people until we could finally get the keys so then we could come in after hours and like play and then you'd get kicked out of that church because you did something bad and you got to go to a different church because we didn't really have practice spaces where I was at.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 1175.812399884315, "endSec": 1182.578, "text": "But I love the idea of like, just you have built-in community if you have a community location that you're all shredding in, you know?", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 1183.078, "endSec": 1204.616, "text": "Yeah, that was amazing and because it was like a youth center and yeah like but it was of course they were like you know adults and like people working there but everything was so very DIY and like community feeling in terms of you have to become a member for nothing and then you", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 1204.616, "endSec": 1204.716, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Luke F. 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Walton" }, { "startSec": 1239.152, "endSec": 1247.002, "text": "method of teaching like to just you know and that was such a powerful uh", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 1247.002, "endSec": 1247.452, "text": "Yeah", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 1247.452, "endSec": 1256.868, "text": "thing as a as a child it's a child but like a teenager to be like be given all this responsibility because", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 1256.868, "endSec": 1257.318, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 1257.318, "endSec": 1267.7359999999999, "text": "and like and and so eventually like they had concerts but like like when we started putting on like hardcore punk concerts with like touring bands from sweden and abroad like", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 1267.7359999999999, "endSec": 1268.2359999999999, "text": "Uh-huh.", "speaker": "Luke F. 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Walton" }, { "startSec": 1292.806, "endSec": 1294.256, "text": "was amazing.", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 1294.506, "endSec": 1301.106, "text": "Yeah. I always think, I think that this kind of stuff is so interesting, especially with Sweden because Sweden", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 1301.7559999999999, "endSec": 1323.906, "text": "punches like way above its weight in terms of impact in the music industry and like the total population versus its total impact and so i love looking at these little things about um like the youth groups or these like knowledge circle things that i heard that you guys can do where you can like have like four or five people be like we're all gonna learn this hobby and you get a grant from the government or", "speaker": "Luke F. 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Walton" }, { "startSec": 1344.38, "endSec": 1351.48, "text": "that's like you you kick our asses in in that field um in terms of like virtuosity exactly", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 1351.48, "endSec": 1356.88, "text": "virtuosity and and yeah and having having church spaces that cultivate that and pass that on where", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 1356.88, "endSec": 1356.93, "text": "yeah", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 1356.93, "endSec": 1368.78, "text": "you have like elders in the church to play in the church band teaching the younger drummers it becomes its own little community center but it's interesting because that's because there's like a void there's there's a gap that we we just lack", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 1369.084, "endSec": 1369.084, "text": "Yeah,", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 1369.084, "endSec": 1369.134, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 1369.134, "endSec": 1369.584, "text": "exactly.", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 1369.584, "endSec": 1370.184, "text": "Yeah. Yeah.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 1370.184, "endSec": 1396.888, "text": "No, but, but Sweden is great. And I have two kids now. I have a daughter who's, she's turning four and my son is turning two and I'm like, you know, I just sort of, of course I want them to, to want to, to play music, but I'm trying not to choke them. I'm like, I have a, I have like a. Philly, Philly Corda, like the organ,", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 1396.888, "endSec": 1397.688, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 1397.688, "endSec": 1398.338, "text": "the small one,", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 1398.338, "endSec": 1398.538, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 1398.538, "endSec": 1414.888, "text": "and like a ukulele and they like look at it and like sometimes, but I think if I try too hard now it's definitely not gonna do it later. It's just gonna be, it's gonna be there like a Chekhovian rifle. You get that reference?", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 1414.888, "endSec": 1415.788, "text": "It's got", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 1415.788, "endSec": 1416.588, "text": "You get that reference?", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 1416.588, "endSec": 1418.584, "text": "to go off. You can't.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 1418.584, "endSec": 1434.984, "text": "amazing I love it no but exactly it's got to go off after like before act three it's over but it's just gonna be hanging there on the wall for now anyway I don't know why I said that but now you know I have kids as well but but but yeah", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 1437.916, "endSec": 1458.216, "text": "No, but I hear what you're saying in terms of like the differences in cultural experience and access and then also yeah like trying to raise a kid like you're trying to do a little bit of what brought you to music, which was your own curiosity and having these things the access and the curiosity and then the cultivation. Exactly. Yeah,", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 1458.216, "endSec": 1458.316, "text": "Exactly.", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 1458.316, "endSec": 1464.116, "text": "if you try and force it on somebody, it might almost shut off the magic, it might make it", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 1464.22, "endSec": 1464.22, "text": "It", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 1464.22, "endSec": 1466.77, "text": "never seemed like something that is attractive yeah", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 1466.77, "endSec": 1468.72, "text": "just needs to be accessible.", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 1469.12, "endSec": 1493.07, "text": "yeah and then you went then you went from that formed additional bands and ended up touring I saw that you played like three four hundred shows with Atlas losing grip which I listened to before taping and I really enjoyed it and it did it reminded me of SoCal and I wanted to ask you about that I was like", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 1492.924, "endSec": 1492.924, "text": "Yeah,", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 1492.924, "endSec": 1493.824, "text": "It's like, this sounds like some SoCal.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 1493.824, "endSec": 1494.274, "text": "exactly.", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 1494.274, "endSec": 1495.674, "text": "Yeah, exactly.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 1495.674, "endSec": 1521.326, "text": "No, but like, so I had like my hard rock era and then came the punk era and like hard core punk era, just kidding about the eras, but there was, I think I, later on, we started that band in 2005. When I was, what is 18, I think it was 17 going to turn 18 in", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 1521.326, "endSec": 1521.776, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 1521.776, "endSec": 1525.226, "text": "the same youth center, like an older guy,", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 1525.226, "endSec": 1525.426, "text": "Cool. Sweet.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 1525.426, "endSec": 1537.076, "text": "he's like he was seven years older than me and he was a fucking shredder on guitar and he also loved heavy metal so it's like can we just go down and play guitar and it would make me play the", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 1537.7559999999999, "endSec": 1542.0059999999999, "text": "like the rhythm guitar for like Iron Maiden songs so we could just go off and shred on", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 1542.0059999999999, "endSec": 1542.2060000000001, "text": "top Sweet.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 1542.2060000000001, "endSec": 1542.606, "text": "it's", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 1542.606, "endSec": 1543.056, "text": "Awesome.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 1543.056, "endSec": 1568.1979999999999, "text": "like wow man he was such an inspiration and then and years later we I can't remember exactly how but like a bunch of different bands formed with the same members in that group of friends and you know but then we sort of we need to like we would uh we really need to start like a skate punk band because at", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 1568.1979999999999, "endSec": 1568.748, "text": "Yes.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 1568.748, "endSec": 1574.298, "text": "that point i was really into like bad religion and no effects and like lagwagon and all these bands it's", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 1574.298, "endSec": 1577.1979999999999, "text": "And when did Tony Hawk Pro Skater come out? Because I feel like that.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 1577.1979999999999, "endSec": 1595.136, "text": "okay oh yeah or not yeah thanks thanks for mentioning it i think that was must have been 1999 i think exactly no actually you're you know more about me than but but that was such a that was such a such a you know big thing and", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 1595.136, "endSec": 1595.4859999999999, "text": "Totally.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 1595.4859999999999, "endSec": 1620.092, "text": "because exactly that's how it was i was really into hard rock and then like tony hawk came and everyone at youth center played it like there was this line to play and like you would hear like goldfinger mill and colin all these uh all these things and i would like be like fuck i really like this is kind of soft but it's like it's almost like like have you ever listened to german power metal like halloween or No,", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 1620.092, "endSec": 1620.292, "text": "Uh", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 1620.292, "endSec": 1620.442, "text": "yeah,", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 1620.442, "endSec": 1620.592, "text": "-huh.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 1620.592, "endSec": 1629.792, "text": "so I fucked a lot with that and I was like this is the exact same melodies and chord changes only that it's not a double kick It's just a single kick and", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 1629.792, "endSec": 1630.6419999999998, "text": "Yeah, yeah, yeah.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 1630.6419999999998, "endSec": 1634.342, "text": "like the tempo like like dragon force is skate punk with a double kick drop", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 1634.342, "endSec": 1634.842, "text": "Cool.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 1634.842, "endSec": 1635.342, "text": "You know", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 1635.342, "endSec": 1635.592, "text": "Yes.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 1635.592, "endSec": 1636.042, "text": "in", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 1636.042, "endSec": 1636.742, "text": "Love that.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 1636.742, "endSec": 1637.3919999999998, "text": "my opinion and", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 1637.3919999999998, "endSec": 1638.492, "text": "That's a great way to put it.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 1639.942, "endSec": 1645.876, "text": "It really is though not this thing but anyway so yeah and", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 1645.876, "endSec": 1646.426, "text": "Mm then-hmm.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 1646.426, "endSec": 1673.076, "text": "when Tony Hawk came I was like yeah this is fucking awesome and then of course the whole skate culture was really intriguing I never I tried to skate myself I sucked I sucked at sports maybe that's why I succeeded in music can you say really succeed no but just kidding but but sports wasn't for me I had I hadn't still have asthma like pollen allergy like going on a football field was I tried but you know I could run 20 meters and then I collapsed so I", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 1673.7559999999999, "endSec": 1675.656, "text": "I just retreated back to the practice", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 1675.656, "endSec": 1676.106, "text": "Mm-hmm.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 1676.106, "endSec": 1676.9560000000001, "text": "space,", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 1676.9560000000001, "endSec": 1677.156, "text": "Yes.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 1677.156, "endSec": 1678.556, "text": "turned the gain up.", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 1678.856, "endSec": 1679.306, "text": "Yep.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 1680.356, "endSec": 1698.926, "text": "So then we started a skate punk band. My brother was on drums, Stefan played first play guitar, and then we recorded a demo at first. And this is sort of how I got", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 1698.926, "endSec": 1699.0259999999998, "text": "How'd", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 1699.0259999999998, "endSec": 1699.326, "text": "into recording.", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 1699.326, "endSec": 1701.176, "text": "you record it? How did you record it? Yeah.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 1701.2759999999998, "endSec": 1706.476, "text": "So let me think we had it we did a demo in in 2006 I think I did that actually like", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 1706.476, "endSec": 1707.0259999999998, "text": "You did that?", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 1707.0259999999998, "endSec": 1708.726, "text": "the Cool. band the band I had before", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 1708.976, "endSec": 1709.326, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 1710.2759999999998, "endSec": 1726.288, "text": "Sort of we like there was this this guy at the youth center was working there and I really looked up to him a lot. He played in punk bands play guitar And he got this four sticks, like poor us studio cassette", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 1726.288, "endSec": 1727.038, "text": "yeah yeah for", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 1727.038, "endSec": 1727.188, "text": "recorder,", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 1727.188, "endSec": 1733.988, "text": "that little digital yeah did it have did it have the um cd burner built into it because one of my friends had one of those okay", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 1733.988, "endSec": 1734.188, "text": "cassette.", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 1734.188, "endSec": 1735.438, "text": "this is cassette okay", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 1735.438, "endSec": 1745.404, "text": "Like even, I think it was a Four Sticks or Tascam, it could have been a Tascam. But I think you could record four tracks and then like you could ping over the tracks to like save up tracks. I'm", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 1745.404, "endSec": 1746.154, "text": "That makes sense, yeah.", "speaker": "Luke F. 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So that would that would be the only thing to motivate me to actually do my homework Otherwise, I would just play guitar and eventually I remember I got into music high school. It's like fuck. Yes what was i saying uh", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 1810.6779999999999, "endSec": 1813.978, "text": "We were talking about your first recording journey and like", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 1813.978, "endSec": 1814.1280000000002, "text": "exactly", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 1814.1280000000002, "endSec": 1814.278, "text": "learning", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 1814.278, "endSec": 1814.4279999999999, "text": "no", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 1814.4279999999999, "endSec": 1814.478, "text": "the", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 1814.478, "endSec": 1814.728, "text": "no exactly", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 1814.728, "endSec": 1814.828, "text": "guitar.", "speaker": "Luke F. 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And then in high school I had like I did I had the the course was like a recording course in", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 1871.69, "endSec": 1872.19, "text": "Cool.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 1872.19, "endSec": 1872.8400000000001, "text": "in high", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 1872.8400000000001, "endSec": 1873.24, "text": "Incredible.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 1873.24, "endSec": 1873.6399999999999, "text": "school and", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 1873.6399999999999, "endSec": 1873.8400000000001, "text": "That's", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 1873.8400000000001, "endSec": 1874.0900000000001, "text": "and they", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 1874.0900000000001, "endSec": 1874.69, "text": "cool. Love it.", "speaker": "Luke F. 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Walton" }, { "startSec": 1928.246, "endSec": 1953.826, "text": "was like, when I wasn't looking, he would be like, kick drum. like push up a favorite and he told me like afterwards i got a like a on that anyway but i didn't i didn't really notice but it was just such a big move to like he's like yeah i'm a kick drum that's kind of funny but", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 1953.826, "endSec": 1954.676, "text": "That is funny.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 1954.676, "endSec": 1966.55, "text": "then so i'm all over the place but then that was our first recording and then we i recorded our first proper demo in the studio at the youth center and", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 1966.55, "endSec": 1967.15, "text": "Mm-hmm.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 1967.15, "endSec": 1977.75, "text": "then I recorded the for the second demo and the first album we got the guy who used to record my old band to do it but from that point", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 1978.492, "endSec": 1995.692, "text": "I did most of the recording and production for us and then I at the same time I started like recording when I learned the ropes in Pro Tools and like okay I was really bad but I wanted to do it and I recorded all the other bands in the practice space first", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 1995.692, "endSec": 1996.042, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 1996.042, "endSec": 2007.596, "text": "you know I think I for my first job which actually I don't know if you can see but I have I have like my wall of records up here. I'm going to show you later. But this, you", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 2007.596, "endSec": 2008.046, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 2010.196, "endSec": 2015.196, "text": "can see it's like proper crust punk.", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 2015.196, "endSec": 2015.296, "text": "It's", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 2015.296, "endSec": 2015.596, "text": "It flickers.", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 2015.596, "endSec": 2015.8960000000002, "text": "sick.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 2015.8960000000002, "endSec": 2018.846, "text": "It's like a, but this was my first paid job.", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 2019.296, "endSec": 2020.996, "text": "Cool. Awesome.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 2020.996, "endSec": 2024.6460000000002, "text": "I think, I think it is. But, and I charged $1 per hour.", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 2024.6460000000002, "endSec": 2025.196, "text": "Yes.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 2026.204, "endSec": 2034.8539999999998, "text": "And we recorded 24 songs in a day and then I mixed it for them and I was sort of I think I was at that point", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 2035.8539999999998, "endSec": 2065.384, "text": "there's something with like having a sound in your mind and then you know in the beginning you have a hard time dialing it in because you don't know how EQs and compressors work and all that and I was like I was trying to sort of make them this is like you know like D beat. And I was like trying to make them sound like Toto. So they said like, and I thought back then you would like burn the sound, burn it to a CD,", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 2065.384, "endSec": 2065.584, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 2065.584, "endSec": 2066.434, "text": "give it to them.", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 2066.434, "endSec": 2066.634, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 2066.634, "endSec": 2074.384, "text": "And then they said like, it's fine, like we can rip it and put on more distortion at home because they want it to sound like a vacuum clean.", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 2076.97, "endSec": 2083.598, "text": "It was too clean like I know that now And that was", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 2083.598, "endSec": 2083.898, "text": "Sorry", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 2083.898, "endSec": 2084.198, "text": "quite easy.", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 2084.198, "endSec": 2102.648, "text": "to interrupt this very important broadcast, but it's time for one more advertisement for myself for this podcast. What I'm asking for is for you to rate it five stars, share it with your friends. This is like the most important thing for this podcast to grow. So if you want to do this, you go into the podcast screen, right? You click on the dot dot dot on Spotify.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 2102.648, "endSec": 2110.148, "text": "Under there it says rate show and you go and you click it five stars. If you could do that for me, that's the best way for the algorithms and all that stuff.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 2110.148, "endSec": 2127.994, "text": "stuff to share it out with the world i know that it's a lot to ask but if you could please please please just please just hit those three dots in a five star would really help us out and helps us you know get the get the word out and spread the love of music so thank you if you're listening on youtube you know what to do like subscribe all that good stuff thank you so much and here's the rest of the episode yeah", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 2127.994, "endSec": 2135.076, "text": "So I started recording all the other bands and Mostly punk rock, hardcore, metal.", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 2135.076, "endSec": 2153.376, "text": "Mm hmm. What did you learn during that time? Were you like learning like what are some key insights that you might be able to give of like, was it learning how to put microphones in front of things? Was it learning how to decide what you're going to process later? Were you trying to do like on the amp, like anything that kind of like came out of those early sessions?", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 2154.226, "endSec": 2158.54, "text": "Yeah, like most... most things sound it sounded like shit like", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 2158.54, "endSec": 2158.84, "text": "Yeah,", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 2158.84, "endSec": 2159.04, "text": "because", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 2159.04, "endSec": 2159.19, "text": "totally.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 2159.19, "endSec": 2160.29, "text": "it was a shitty interface i", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 2160.29, "endSec": 2160.59, "text": "Totally.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 2160.59, "endSec": 2176.04, "text": "didn't know it at the time but the interface was shitty we had like you know sure my x57 beta 52 blah blah all the standard stuff but and the like my room here i think this is like 25 square meters the recording room was like you", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 2177.89, "endSec": 2183.29, "text": "could barely like you could fit a like a a drum kit in there but then no one else could stand in there", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 2185.244, "endSec": 2196.044, "text": "But somehow you learned too how to manipulate that as well, but this I just need a sip", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 2196.044, "endSec": 2196.444, "text": "No problem.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 2196.444, "endSec": 2197.894, "text": "of water.", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 2200.636, "endSec": 2223.536, "text": "You might, I'll tell you why you're taking this up. My first, one of my first recording things was we have a college here in North County, San Diego called MiraCosta and they started a recording program. This is like maybe like the first year of this recording program. So they put out a call for local bands and I jumped on that thing. We had about like 25 different students all trying to mic up our gear.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 2223.536, "endSec": 2253.438, "text": "It was absolutely just like a mess, like people were dropping mic. microphones and like students are running around and getting tangled and cables and breaking stuff but it was great because i got to like kind of watch the process and then also hear the professor guy like critiquing all of their decisions and i i got a ton out of that recording session which was for free just by almost being like a student as i was being recorded and then we got to keep all the tracks and take it home and mess with it manipulate it with", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 2253.34, "endSec": 2254.84, "text": "with by ourselves it still doesn't sound very", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 2254.84, "endSec": 2254.94, "text": "Right.", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 2254.94, "endSec": 2263.29, "text": "good but like at least that was like a nice little trial by fire without us having to be like on the hook as um the people that were getting paid to do it", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 2263.29, "endSec": 2263.34, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 2263.34, "endSec": 2264.09, "text": "yeah yeah", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 2264.09, "endSec": 2272.69, "text": "And that's amazing. I think what helped me was, because I was doing rock music, I", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 2272.69, "endSec": 2273.39, "text": "right yes", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 2273.39, "endSec": 2291.902, "text": "recorded actual instruments. So I never, it's like... i never used like i was yeah i had a kick drum it sounded like shit i had to you know eq it like a swiss cheese to make it sound good so i would just you know and i think that's i", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 2293.652, "endSec": 2312.688, "text": "think i i sound i'm gonna sound so old but a lot of people who only work with samples you know they have a great sounding kick coming you know straight from splice sounds great mix ready it says like blah blah blah mix ready But, and why would they go and record a kick when they can get a kick? You know, I", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 2312.688, "endSec": 2312.888, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 2312.888, "endSec": 2314.088, "text": "couldn't get a kick from Splice.", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 2314.088, "endSec": 2314.188, "text": "No,", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 2314.188, "endSec": 2331.288, "text": "If I exactly. could, I would probably put it in there. But I think what was good for me was, I don't know, I think I did a hundred recordings between 2006 and 2012 over the course of six years. And, you know, that's a hundred different drummers, a hundred", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 2331.288, "endSec": 2331.388, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 2331.388, "endSec": 2332.188, "text": "different drum kits in", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 2332.188, "endSec": 2332.238, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 2332.238, "endSec": 2332.8379999999997, "text": "the same room.", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 2333.0879999999997, "endSec": 2333.388, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 2334.332, "endSec": 2347.334, "text": "Same mics and I would try different techniques. I remember like one of the later recordings. I was like I started like realizing okay It's it's because it's such a small room it's never going to sound huge how", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 2347.334, "endSec": 2347.934, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Luke F. 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Yeah.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 2391.362, "endSec": 2419.56, "text": "but I'm not really the adventurous discovering type of experimenting engineer but uh i'm more methodical and and uh i guess but otherwise i don't know what to to tell anyone just go out and do it and don't be scared to do it it's gonna sound like shit for many years and just keep doing it and and know that you will end up if you if you have the", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 2420.604, "endSec": 2433.954, "text": "uh the will and the grit and the and the you know you need to persevere you just need to persevere and just you know march on i", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 2433.954, "endSec": 2434.404, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 2434.404, "endSec": 2434.904, "text": "guess", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 2435.516, "endSec": 2435.516, "text": "Then", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 2435.516, "endSec": 2435.816, "text": "You", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 2435.816, "endSec": 2435.866, "text": "I", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 2435.866, "endSec": 2435.916, "text": "don't", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 2435.916, "endSec": 2436.016, "text": "love", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 2436.016, "endSec": 2436.266, "text": "get put off", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 2436.266, "endSec": 2436.416, "text": "the", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 2436.416, "endSec": 2437.616, "text": "by yeah, right", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 2437.616, "endSec": 2462.166, "text": "tenacity kind of aspect that you're saying and then also adding that in with almost like experimental design where you're keeping these things static and then changing other things like the drummer or the drum kit but you have the same mic locker you have the same room and so now you're able to understand like okay given this input I expect that output and then over time you get to know all the different tools so intimately and that's one of the reasons why I recommend", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 2462.204, "endSec": 2466.304, "text": "meant to people to like embrace not having budget in the beginning because", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 2466.304, "endSec": 2466.754, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 2466.754, "endSec": 2488.104, "text": "yeah if you can buy a million different microphones you're not going to learn them all you're just going to have a whole bunch of different microphones you'll see whatever people on gear slots or gear space say um like hey use this on snare and you're like oh i will be prescribed and i will use that on snare instead of like getting to know your own mics if you only have a 57 if you only have a 58 if you only have like two mics that's great get to know them intimately try them on everything and then", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 2488.348, "endSec": 2503.498, "text": "add as you as you like develop and master something then you can add on more tools rather than trying to add every tool at once and thinking you need have everything to be a real studio it's like you kind of need the skills more than the tools yeah", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 2503.498, "endSec": 2517.082, "text": "exactly one thing I just realized is when when I started like I wanted my drums to sound huge but I couldn't and then At that point there were no like slate trigger, what's", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 2517.082, "endSec": 2518.132, "text": "yeah right this", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 2518.132, "endSec": 2519.432, "text": "this case thing called like chromagog,", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 2519.432, "endSec": 2520.082, "text": "sound replace just", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 2520.082, "endSec": 2520.482, "text": "I remember.", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 2520.482, "endSec": 2520.732, "text": "for", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 2520.732, "endSec": 2521.382, "text": "Do you know chromagog?", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 2521.382, "endSec": 2537.882, "text": "the listeners just for the listeners who don't know what this is they're these little sound replacing things so like a trigger like you hit an actual snare drum and then now we can go on splice and pick out a million different types of mix ready snare drums and then every time that the drummer hits their snare drum even just a blend of that mix ready sound", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 2538.268, "endSec": 2543.918, "text": "can be um triggered can be added in in that exact moment so sorry did run just", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 2543.918, "endSec": 2544.118, "text": "No,", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 2544.118, "endSec": 2544.268, "text": "then", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 2544.268, "endSec": 2549.618, "text": "no, that's good. And then, but when I started out, there was like this shitty thing called Ramagog,", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 2549.618, "endSec": 2549.718, "text": "yeah", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 2549.718, "endSec": 2550.268, "text": "and it", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 2550.268, "endSec": 2550.368, "text": "drama", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 2550.368, "endSec": 2550.468, "text": "wouldn't", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 2550.468, "endSec": 2550.868, "text": "god i", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 2550.868, "endSec": 2551.368, "text": "work, it would", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 2551.368, "endSec": 2551.418, "text": "don't", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 2551.418, "endSec": 2551.468, "text": "be", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 2551.468, "endSec": 2551.768, "text": "know that one", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 2551.768, "endSec": 2551.918, "text": "like,", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 2551.918, "endSec": 2552.118, "text": "i", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 2552.118, "endSec": 2553.918, "text": "you don't know it?", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 2553.918, "endSec": 2560.468, "text": "don't know no i'm a little i'm a little bit younger than you are but this is a trigger was my first uh foray into uh", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 2560.468, "endSec": 2560.618, "text": "That's", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 2560.618, "endSec": 2560.718, "text": "into", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 2560.718, "endSec": 2567.458, "text": "good. But then I think Trigger came in, I think I got it in. 2011, 2012,", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 2567.458, "endSec": 2568.308, "text": "Something like that.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 2568.358, "endSec": 2568.408, "text": "I", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 2568.408, "endSec": 2568.808, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 2568.808, "endSec": 2569.808, "text": "think 12, I think. But", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 2569.808, "endSec": 2571.558, "text": "I was probably a little later to that game.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 2571.558, "endSec": 2579.608, "text": "I refuse to sound replace, even if I could do it like manually, of course, I could like copy a great sounding drum.", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 2579.608, "endSec": 2579.758, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 2579.758, "endSec": 2584.408, "text": "But I refused. I was like, I'm going to learn how to mix drums because if I start using samples,", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 2584.558, "endSec": 2584.608, "text": "Yep.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 2584.608, "endSec": 2587.058, "text": "I'm just, you know, I'm shooting myself in the foot because", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 2587.058, "endSec": 2587.308, "text": "Totally.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 2587.308, "endSec": 2588.308, "text": "I'm shooting myself in the foot.", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 2588.892, "endSec": 2611.942, "text": "then everything's going to sound the same like one of the things that's weird about triggering is that you lose so much of what the player's actually offering like a kick drum in particular kick drums are so hard i still have trouble with kick drums uh especially if they're not recorded very well but like there's there is nuance to kick drums that like drummers play with a ton of dynamics and you want to be able to capture all that when you start triggering stuff it just goes squish yeah", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 2611.942, "endSec": 2615.502, "text": "Exactly. And you need to do it with style, I think. I think actually", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 2615.502, "endSec": 2616.002, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 2616.002, "endSec": 2622.752, "text": "that trigger is actually quite amazing because it has like it detects", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 2622.752, "endSec": 2623.852, "text": "Yeah, it's the velocity stuff.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 2623.852, "endSec": 2637.202, "text": "and triggers like okay this is a soft hit and there's like infinite amounts of hits so it's actually quite natural but I just refused to I said like okay I'm going to learn to mix drums and then I deserve to use trigger.", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 2637.302, "endSec": 2638.152, "text": "Yeah, right.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 2638.152, "endSec": 2638.352, "text": "And now", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 2638.352, "endSec": 2639.102, "text": "There you go.", "speaker": "Luke F. 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Walton" }, { "startSec": 2659.376, "endSec": 2659.526, "text": "um", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 2659.526, "endSec": 2682.626, "text": "did the same thing with melodine with this project with Scoobert Doobert like tuning vocals i didn't let myself for a long time even go there because i just wanted to like get good at actually singing and like you know like actually delivering the song and i was like you know what like nobody really cares nobody's really listening like i'm making this project i'm making this music for me and like more recently i do it more because it", "speaker": "Luke F. 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Walton" }, { "startSec": 2730.648, "endSec": 2745.85, "text": "i recorded all these like no exactly but i i am We're recording my band, recording all these bands, starting that, and then we started touring in 2009, I think,", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 2745.85, "endSec": 2745.9, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 2745.9, "endSec": 2747, "text": "2008.", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 2747.6, "endSec": 2747.9, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 2747.9, "endSec": 2758.9, "text": "And then, like, we disbanded in 2016, I think, so over eight years with, I think we played three, around 300 shows plus minus,", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 2758.9, "endSec": 2759.3, "text": "Incredible.", "speaker": "Luke F. 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Walton" }, { "startSec": 2808.406, "endSec": 2808.906, "text": "and then", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 2808.906, "endSec": 2809.206, "text": "Exactly.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 2811.74, "endSec": 2815.29, "text": "So we would be like touring and playing we like invite bands to come play our", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 2815.29, "endSec": 2815.84, "text": "Mm hmm.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 2815.84, "endSec": 2819.29, "text": "venue and you're helping It was sort of kind of nice actually and", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 2819.29, "endSec": 2819.74, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 2819.74, "endSec": 2826.04, "text": "then people would sleep sleep in our flats and and we would stay in people's houses when we were out playing", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 2830.54, "endSec": 2830.74, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 2830.74, "endSec": 2831.54, "text": "It depends", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 2831.54, "endSec": 2831.59, "text": "No,", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 2831.59, "endSec": 2832.09, "text": "if", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 2832.09, "endSec": 2850.564, "text": "that's interesting. And then so what did you find was different between kind of like live live sound versus recorded sound? did you see overlaps with some of your skill set that you like had eqing drums and things like that did you go like oh i know what i'm doing or were you like learning on the job do you have any mentors how is that transition for you", "speaker": "Luke F. 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Walton" }, { "startSec": 2881.99, "endSec": 2901.89, "text": "it makes no sense to try and make a perfect balance of in the PA you know because then we'd have to turn down the amps like makes no sense so I think and at first I only did sounding like small venue so I think I learned how to actually listen to the music and not try to if you", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 2902.812, "endSec": 2911.812, "text": "yeah and that's one thing just listening to what is actually coming out and what do I do I really need to mic the guitars because", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 2911.812, "endSec": 2912.262, "text": "Right.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 2912.262, "endSec": 2923.062, "text": "you're listening like in the center of the room you have a hundred watt Marshall amps you don't need to turn them down to put them in the PA like you just make a good balance of it I think listening", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 2924.188, "endSec": 2924.238, "text": "So", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 2924.238, "endSec": 2924.5879999999997, "text": "i mean", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 2924.5879999999997, "endSec": 2924.938, "text": "many like people", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 2924.938, "endSec": 2925.038, "text": "no", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 2925.038, "endSec": 2929.288, "text": "don't do that though. It's crazy because they like have to mic everything or whatever.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 2929.288, "endSec": 2929.388, "text": "you", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 2929.388, "endSec": 2929.688, "text": "Yeah, right.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 2929.688, "endSec": 2930.038, "text": "would have like", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 2930.038, "endSec": 2930.0879999999997, "text": "Yeah", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 2930.0879999999997, "endSec": 2940.638, "text": "plexi walls no no but uh no i guess and you know i guess it's like i'm sitting on the answers i don't but um", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 2943.036, "endSec": 2973.508, "text": "I think if you go to school, you just have to go out there and try it in the real world. And I'm not the first to say it, and I'm not the last one to say it. There's no school who can teach you. These days, if I do a show where I'm not bringing my desk and I need to make a soundcheck from scratch. Which I sort of did the other week.", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 2973.508, "endSec": 2995.008, "text": "I was in Paris in London doing a show where I wasn't with a band at the production rehearsal, so I had to do the mix during soundcheck. But you can't listen to the kick drum for five minutes and make the perfect EQ. I think that's...", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 2995.008, "endSec": 3011.29, "text": "That's a common like because you would usually have like from left to right drums You know so like you'll be hearing like can I hear the kick and then like a drum is like after 12 hits is just bored and you try to and it makes no sense makes", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 3011.29, "endSec": 3011.94, "text": "Mm-hmm.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 3011.94, "endSec": 3024.24, "text": "more sense to like okay what's important like we're like usually you're on a time crunch right so you put up the vocal faders there's there is gonna be bleed like you can't isolate everything", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 3024.24, "endSec": 3024.64, "text": "Yes.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 3024.64, "endSec": 3024.89, "text": "uh", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 3024.89, "endSec": 3025.34, "text": "Right.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 3025.34, "endSec": 3042.794, "text": "so use the bleed it's like put up the start with the vocal mics you're gonna have symbols in there they're gonna sound pretty bad but then when you start sound checking the other shit you you're not gonna you know high shelf plus five dbs on the overheads you might because do", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 3042.794, "endSec": 3043.044, "text": "you're going to", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 3043.044, "endSec": 3043.1440000000002, "text": "the get opposite", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 3043.1440000000002, "endSec": 3043.294, "text": "all that", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 3043.294, "endSec": 3043.3940000000002, "text": "but", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 3043.3940000000002, "endSec": 3043.544, "text": "that's", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 3043.544, "endSec": 3044.694, "text": "you have this yeah it's", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 3044.694, "endSec": 3044.944, "text": "a good that's", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 3044.944, "endSec": 3044.9939999999997, "text": "like", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 3044.9939999999997, "endSec": 3046.194, "text": "a good point that's a really good point", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 3046.344, "endSec": 3052.872, "text": "what i wanted to say was uh i don't know I sound so old when I talk.", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 3052.872, "endSec": 3079.072, "text": "no no it's uh what you're saying is is a valuable there's a there's like a there's music and then there's audio there are some things that can be taught there's textbook-y stuff but then there's other things that can only be learned which is like a very paradoxical weird thing to say but in audio some most things cannot be taught it can only be learned you have to go do it you have to play with it and that little insight is a perfect example and one that i think anybody who's listening to this is going to go do live sound should", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 3079.1, "endSec": 3096.952, "text": "should consider yeah what's actually what can you not deal with there's always going to be bleed and so you're going to have all this high-end gross stuff that's going to go into all the vocal mics and especially if you have a band with a ton of singers sorry like there's gonna be tambourine everywhere so", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 3096.952, "endSec": 3097.402, "text": "Exactly.", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 3097.402, "endSec": 3102.202, "text": "do you really need like a big tambourine mic do you have to like focus on that too much it's gonna be everywhere yeah", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 3102.202, "endSec": 3111.702, "text": "Exactly. No, because yeah, and what I wanted to say, thank you for making me realize the difference between studio and live work is in live you have a time crunch.", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 3111.702, "endSec": 3112.302, "text": "cool yeah", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 3112.7799999999997, "endSec": 3115.58, "text": "can't listen to the kick drum for five minutes.", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 3115.58, "endSec": 3115.68, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 3115.68, "endSec": 3136.9219999999996, "text": "You need to work fast and make it work. And then during the first song in the event of, you know. doing a sound check and then you know but you know these days i tour with my desk and we have production rehearsal so i have time to rough but but usually when you start out you don't you just go somewhere plug in the door i'm gonna do sound today and i think no", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 3136.9219999999996, "endSec": 3141.1719999999996, "text": "and they're like yeah come on in only one speaker works the sub's broken have fun", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 3141.1719999999996, "endSec": 3144.1719999999996, "text": "no no been there been", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 3144.1719999999996, "endSec": 3144.272, "text": "been", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 3144.272, "endSec": 3144.522, "text": "there and", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 3144.522, "endSec": 3144.872, "text": "there too", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 3144.872, "endSec": 3149.272, "text": "that's a big big difference", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 3150.4919999999997, "endSec": 3150.4919999999997, "text": "Yep.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 3150.4919999999997, "endSec": 3170.29, "text": "There's a lot of stuff that you learn. I think also because the way I think when I mix live sound these days is not so much, and I sort of, you know, I've been mixing in Pro Tools for... 20 years it's", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 3170.29, "endSec": 3170.9399999999996, "text": "Whoa.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 3170.9399999999996, "endSec": 3182.0899999999997, "text": "a long time it's it's a really long time but but and in the beginning i just remember i didn't have like a fader i could touch and and ride you'd like write the automation with your mouse and", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 3182.0899999999997, "endSec": 3182.24, "text": "Yep.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 3182.24, "endSec": 3201.932, "text": "i still do you know when you're just going to grab a section and bump it up but what i started doing is i started you know writing things and because that i got that from from live doing live sound is like These days I do a lot of master fader, you know, okay,", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 3201.932, "endSec": 3202.0319999999997, "text": "Cool.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 3202.0319999999997, "endSec": 3204.2819999999997, "text": "chorus is coming up, you know, just", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 3204.2819999999997, "endSec": 3204.482, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 3204.482, "endSec": 3224.526, "text": "to, I want to, I want to, I'm mixing for my 13 year old self in Yeah. the audience watching my God playing and I just want to be overwhelmed and run over by a bulldozer. I just want the emotional. overwhelmless of", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 3224.526, "endSec": 3225.026, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Luke F. 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I can just, you know, be in the show and try to just, you know, okay, take it down, you know, now we're going to push the faders and now we're going to, and I usually have a. space echo like a roland guitar", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 3275.0919999999996, "endSec": 3275.292, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 3275.292, "endSec": 3277.892, "text": "pedal uh with batteries sounds", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 3277.892, "endSec": 3278.792, "text": "Cool. Wow.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 3278.792, "endSec": 3279.5919999999996, "text": "better sounds better", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 3279.5919999999996, "endSec": 3279.6919999999996, "text": "Yeah,", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 3279.6919999999996, "endSec": 3281.9419999999996, "text": "on batteries especially when they're on 50 percent it", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 3281.9419999999996, "endSec": 3282.1919999999996, "text": "Yes.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 3282.1919999999996, "endSec": 3302.3379999999997, "text": "distorts so nicely i love it but uh and i i usually because i'm not the guy who's like standing there putting the levels and then like sounds pretty good i'm you know i'm there all the time and like if i have nothing to do here i'll just you know I usually the lead vocals,", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 3302.488, "endSec": 3302.5379999999996, "text": "Mm", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 3302.5379999999996, "endSec": 3302.9379999999996, "text": "the", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 3302.9379999999996, "endSec": 3303.0879999999997, "text": "hmm.", "speaker": "Luke F. 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Walton" }, { "startSec": 3313.3379999999997, "endSec": 3313.5379999999996, "text": "then", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 3313.5379999999996, "endSec": 3313.9379999999996, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 3313.9379999999996, "endSec": 3314.638, "text": "I", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 3314.638, "endSec": 3315.0379999999996, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 3315.0379999999996, "endSec": 3326.6739999999995, "text": "tap it and you usually see me standing, I don't trust, I don't tap once and then trust it, I tap. Because somehow that tap is like it restarts with every tap so it", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 3326.6739999999995, "endSec": 3327.1739999999995, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 3327.1739999999995, "endSec": 3327.9239999999995, "text": "would be like it", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 3327.9239999999995, "endSec": 3328.024, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 3328.024, "endSec": 3329.4739999999997, "text": "would jump into the right tempo and", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 3329.4739999999997, "endSec": 3329.774, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 3329.774, "endSec": 3335.6739999999995, "text": "then I just throw in the words and I try to just make some because if you have like a rapper and", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 3335.6739999999995, "endSec": 3336.0739999999996, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Luke F. 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Walton" }, { "startSec": 3350.6879999999996, "endSec": 3372.176, "text": "not yeah. you know not you're not across the border of you know it being silly and you're and i you know i just and to this day i don't think anyone ever told me not to do it like or do it less because i i'm really mindful of of you know it's not like if it's like a uh 16 bar you know just", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 3372.176, "endSec": 3372.6259999999997, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Luke F. 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And I love the idea of writing those faders, being an active participant of the music and recognizing that music is this dynamic living thing. I think it's very weird for live mix engineers, I hate it personally as a performer, when they just disappear. They're like...", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 3416.0599999999995, "endSec": 3416.1139999999996, "text": "like sounds", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 3416.1139999999996, "endSec": 3416.314, "text": "It's", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 3416.314, "endSec": 3416.4139999999998, "text": "good", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 3416.4139999999998, "endSec": 3416.564, "text": "like,", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 3416.564, "endSec": 3418.4139999999998, "text": "job's over it", "speaker": "Luke F. 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Walton" }, { "startSec": 3474.7479999999996, "endSec": 3487.798, "text": "then it's also because i remember playing it like doing sound and when we were touring and then like the drummer would always be like why don't you like go talk to him and like and i'm like i want to i want to be the guitar player", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 3487.798, "endSec": 3489.198, "text": "I know. Totally.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 3489.198, "endSec": 3490.198, "text": "like sometimes i would", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 3490.198, "endSec": 3490.348, "text": "Absolutely.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 3490.348, "endSec": 3497.0519999999997, "text": "but i tried to shut that off like and just because i think it's equally important I", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 3497.0519999999997, "endSec": 3497.3019999999997, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 3497.3019999999997, "endSec": 3502.2519999999995, "text": "mean it's not cool to walk out of there but it's equally important to have a good relationship because", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 3502.2519999999995, "endSec": 3502.5519999999997, "text": "Absolutely.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 3502.5519999999997, "endSec": 3503.9519999999998, "text": "you're going to be there all day together", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 3503.9519999999998, "endSec": 3504.352, "text": "Yes.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 3504.352, "endSec": 3505.8019999999997, "text": "I guess", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 3505.8019999999997, "endSec": 3506.4019999999996, "text": "Yes.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 3506.4019999999996, "endSec": 3512.0019999999995, "text": "even if they walk out and are being jerks you both want it to be a good show I", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 3512.0019999999995, "endSec": 3512.4519999999998, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 3512.4519999999998, "endSec": 3526.1859999999997, "text": "guess maybe not the song guy who walks out as much but and I think like if i would like if you would be like two can you put it at 1.6", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 3526.1859999999997, "endSec": 3526.6359999999995, "text": "I know.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 3526.6359999999995, "endSec": 3526.7859999999996, "text": "hall", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 3526.7859999999996, "endSec": 3527.586, "text": "Yeah, exactly. No.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 3527.586, "endSec": 3528.6359999999995, "text": "preset three", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 3528.6359999999995, "endSec": 3547.9359999999997, "text": "What I want is somebody I can just trust on the other side that I know that I can't hear everything because I'm just in my in-ears or in the monitors. They're hearing what the music actually sounds like. I trust you. You're doing it. That's what I want. And that's the thing that makes like playing live right now not feel very fun because I have to set up.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 3547.9359999999997, "endSec": 3559.2879999999996, "text": "the video cameras i have to get the band right i have to figure out my own stuff and i'm working with like a house engineer all those things together make it be like oh i can't even like have the brain space to perform and just be present", "speaker": "Luke F. 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Walton" }, { "startSec": 3665.4739999999997, "endSec": 3684.374, "text": "i was like that and engineer and you know way back you would have different guys of course but but but i really enjoyed i enjoyed but it was like part of what i had to do of course but to um okay just like like see like okay how can i how can i like keep", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 3685.084, "endSec": 3704.584, "text": "you know the the keep track of the time like we can't run out of time when it's be finished tomorrow you have to put down seven guitar solos and like rhythm track rhythm guitar too on all these tracks I'm like okay and if you're too stressed he would freak out Yeah, and you know you", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 3704.584, "endSec": 3705.1339999999996, "text": "yeah.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 3705.1339999999996, "endSec": 3739.2279999999996, "text": "have to you have to I think you have to be sort of gifted in uh social encounters if you're gonna succeed in especially at least you know especially like if you're a recording engineer i guess a lot of bigger sessions you would just be a recording engineer and there would be some sort of producer executive producer in the back and you would just be the you know pro tools operator mostly but but if you're actually gonna produce and record you need to have people skills like people skills above", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 3739.964, "endSec": 3741.0139999999997, "text": "technical skills will", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 3741.0139999999997, "endSec": 3741.4139999999998, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 3741.4139999999998, "endSec": 3763.814, "text": "make you more money in the end I I'm sure of it you need to be yeah you need to learn how to read people and and and leave space when it's needed and push them when you have to do that in the right way yeah it's interesting", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 3765.5319999999997, "endSec": 3782.682, "text": "I'd love to know kind of how you navigate now your work-life balance, you know, father to how do you manage, you know, telling somebody like me with no kids, like, how do you how do you go about that? How do you keep the keep the music flowing while keeping your life?", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 3783.5319999999997, "endSec": 3785.1319999999996, "text": "How old are you by the way early", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 3785.1319999999996, "endSec": 3786.5819999999994, "text": "I'm in my early 30s.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 3787.432, "endSec": 3823.3779999999997, "text": "30s okay I mean my mid to late 30s but anyway I think I was really scared before getting kids of like how, you know, I'm used to like working a lot and like many hours and people are expecting things and I'm the worst at setting boundaries really. I'm super afraid of conflict and like people pleaser is like You can, you know, yeah, whatever.", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 3823.3779999999997, "endSec": 3849.5939999999996, "text": "But when I finally had kids, I was forced to make it work. And Yeah. to me, it's sort of, in how I am and my personality is, if it's just forced upon me, I just, you know, I have to make it work. It's like these days I, most days I leave my kids at... what do you call kindergarten what", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 3849.5939999999996, "endSec": 3849.794, "text": "What's", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 3849.794, "endSec": 3850.144, "text": "do you call it", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 3850.144, "endSec": 3850.1939999999995, "text": "uh,", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 3850.1939999999995, "endSec": 3850.544, "text": "it", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 3850.544, "endSec": 3851.644, "text": "yeah kindergarten", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 3851.644, "endSec": 3852.644, "text": "yeah at nine", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 3852.644, "endSec": 3852.794, "text": "whatever.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 3852.794, "endSec": 3853.4939999999997, "text": "I", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 3853.4939999999997, "endSec": 3853.794, "text": "Yeah", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 3853.794, "endSec": 3874.366, "text": "bike to the studio and I work for six hours and then I pick them up at 3 30 so I have six hours to do like eight projects it feels like I like I'm always constantly juggling eight projects like mixing and mastering when I'm not touring as well as a songwriter but I have an assistant. It", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 3874.366, "endSec": 3874.566, "text": "Mm", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 3874.566, "endSec": 3874.7659999999996, "text": "helps.", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 3874.7659999999996, "endSec": 3875.566, "text": "-hmm. Mm-hmm.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 3876.116, "endSec": 3890.2339999999995, "text": "He receives the stems for mixes and he has like a produce template with like just the routing and the sort of. standard stuff and effects it's", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 3890.2339999999995, "endSec": 3891.3839999999996, "text": "Cool. Yeah.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 3891.3839999999996, "endSec": 3905.8839999999996, "text": "always laid out the same and it's I had to like be efficient and when he patches for me I don't know or puts it on the hard drive and I can just open it and start mixing and the the rough mix would be in metric a B is wonderful", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 3906.5879999999997, "endSec": 3912.488, "text": "plugin you can like and I have a I have this dream deck and I just it's got he programmed programmed it for me it's", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 3912.488, "endSec": 3912.888, "text": "I just got", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 3912.888, "endSec": 3919.5379999999996, "text": "like a a yeah but you have the big one I just have the small one but I have my logo he", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 3919.5379999999996, "endSec": 3921.0379999999996, "text": "Ooh, that's cool. That's cool. I", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 3921.0379999999996, "endSec": 3921.138, "text": "did", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 3921.138, "endSec": 3921.1879999999996, "text": "got", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 3921.1879999999996, "endSec": 3921.3379999999997, "text": "that he", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 3921.3379999999997, "endSec": 3921.5379999999996, "text": "to do that.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 3921.5379999999996, "endSec": 3922.238, "text": "did that as well he's", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 3922.238, "endSec": 3922.3379999999997, "text": "I", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 3922.3379999999997, "endSec": 3922.4379999999996, "text": "amazing", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 3922.4379999999996, "endSec": 3923.3379999999997, "text": "want to do that. That's awesome.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 3923.3379999999997, "endSec": 3944.508, "text": "anyone born 96 and later you're tech freaks I don't know how you acquire all the information but it's amazing to have one on the team and he's great But I have to be efficient and it's there there's some it's not Murphy's law,", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 3944.6079999999997, "endSec": 3955.658, "text": "it's a guy's law that says like like it will take as much time as you I'm really misquoting now, but some some guy's law. Do you know this law?", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 3955.7079999999996, "endSec": 3955.808, "text": "Yeah,", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 3955.808, "endSec": 3956.008, "text": "It's", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 3956.008, "endSec": 3956.2079999999996, "text": "basically", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 3956.2079999999996, "endSec": 3956.4579999999996, "text": "called like", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 3956.4579999999996, "endSec": 3960.008, "text": "it fills the vessel that you give it.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 3960.5719999999997, "endSec": 3960.5719999999997, "text": "Exactly.", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 3960.5719999999997, "endSec": 3961.1719999999996, "text": "I did.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 3961.1719999999996, "endSec": 3965.872, "text": "So if you have 10 days to finish it, you will finish it in 10 days.", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 3965.872, "endSec": 3965.9219999999996, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 3965.9219999999996, "endSec": 3968.9219999999996, "text": "But if you have one day, you will finish it in one day and you'll make it work.", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 3968.9219999999996, "endSec": 3969.372, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 3970.0719999999997, "endSec": 3986.7519999999995, "text": "It's just like I'm constantly on, you know, some days I sit here and I don't get up. I get up to pee and have my lunch. I usually have the same lunch. I have like a... a blender that I do a sort of smoothie with stuff in and", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 3986.7519999999995, "endSec": 3987.2519999999995, "text": "Nice.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 3987.2519999999995, "endSec": 3989.4519999999998, "text": "so I don't have to leave this room which", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 3989.4519999999998, "endSec": 3989.5019999999995, "text": "Yes.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 3989.5019999999995, "endSec": 3990.5519999999997, "text": "sounds depressing but there's", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 3990.5519999999997, "endSec": 3990.7519999999995, "text": "No,", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 3990.7519999999995, "endSec": 3990.9519999999998, "text": "nothing I", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 3990.9519999999998, "endSec": 3991.152, "text": "it's not", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 3991.152, "endSec": 3991.2519999999995, "text": "mean this", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 3991.2519999999995, "endSec": 3991.4519999999998, "text": "depressing.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 3991.4519999999998, "endSec": 3992.5019999999995, "text": "industrial area there's", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 3992.5019999999995, "endSec": 3992.852, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 3992.852, "endSec": 4001.602, "text": "not much around anyway and I can I can spend the mornings with the kids and we can hang out and I work", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 4002.268, "endSec": 4028.9179999999997, "text": "Then I pick them up and then we play and then we have dinner and of course sometimes I go here if I'm if I have a lot of deadlines I might work in the evenings and weekends and but but so like I work only 30 hours a week but it will be probably 40 with when I'm away touring so so I don't work a lot I don't work 80 hour weeks you don't have to like in the beginning like back in the day I would", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 4030.1719999999996, "endSec": 4035.9219999999996, "text": "Totally. And I just tried, I'm just super fast and efficient and I have great speakers.", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 4035.9219999999996, "endSec": 4040.522, "text": "Yeah. It Uh-huh. Cool. helps. What That speakers helps do a you, lot actually. what speakers do you prefer?", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 4041.022, "endSec": 4046.372, "text": "Maybe I can prefer, Yeah. I have these, maybe I can, let's see if I can show you.", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 4047.2279999999996, "endSec": 4052.4779999999996, "text": "Yeah, take me on a ride anybody that's on video is about to get a little dizzy. Ooh,", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 4052.4779999999996, "endSec": 4073.4779999999996, "text": "Okay. nice. So these are Yeah GeneralX 8351Bs General X. Yeah cool with a W371A maybe, subs. They're not called subs because they're called low-end extenders or something. But yeah, and they cost a fortune.", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 4073.4779999999996, "endSec": 4102.197999999999, "text": "but when I got them it's like I there's no guesswork and I'm not in a perfect room so you can see I have like these kick acoustic things I just put up because I'm I'm in this room on a like a limited like eventually they're gonna tear it down and try to build apartments but until then I can rent it for like nothing yeah I'm just I just failed my camera let's see this is gonna work", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 4104.764, "endSec": 4111.014, "text": "It's gonna... Ah, here we go. Beautiful. Back here. So great speakers help. Yeah. Yeah.", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 4111.014, "endSec": 4128.814, "text": "But in the beginning I was always working on shitty speakers and I learned those and that's I think you can give the beginner listener. And in the first years I tried to make gold out of crap and I...", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 4129.82, "endSec": 4138.219999999999, "text": "I did the best I could and some of the stuff I did back then it doesn't sound horrible at all it's just maybe not as luxurious and but", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 4138.219999999999, "endSec": 4138.7699999999995, "text": "Uh-huh.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 4138.7699999999995, "endSec": 4143.12, "text": "still you're like it's it's not the Sonics you know always like", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 4143.12, "endSec": 4143.62, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 4143.62, "endSec": 4153.92, "text": "sonically it might not be as sexy as today but but it's it's giving the emotions and like especially with the hardcore punk rock stuff it's mostly like", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 4153.29, "endSec": 4155.292, "text": "It's mostly like Uh, you", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 4155.292, "endSec": 4155.492, "text": "yeah", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 4155.492, "endSec": 4155.742, "text": "know, yeah,", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 4155.742, "endSec": 4157.292, "text": "that's what you want that's what you want as", "speaker": "Luke F. 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Walton" }, { "startSec": 4188.178, "endSec": 4209.728, "text": "went down the rabbit hole of trying to change stuff too much and if you're on if when when you're on good speakers if you're on bad speakers in a bad room there will be like frequencies and stuff that like standing waves that you just want to get out of there because but they're not there there's it's just your room and your crappy speakers fooling you", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 4209.728, "endSec": 4210.3279999999995, "text": "Yeah, yeah.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 4211.356, "endSec": 4219.206, "text": "So like now I can really tell okay, is this does this need a fix or you know Will it will it float to", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 4219.206, "endSec": 4219.356, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 4219.356, "endSec": 4233.192, "text": "make a David letterman? No, but I think it's hard though like the hardest thing is to know when to not do anything because", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 4233.192, "endSec": 4233.792, "text": "Mm-hmm.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 4233.792, "endSec": 4235.442, "text": "you you want to work you", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 4235.442, "endSec": 4235.692, "text": "Mm-hmm.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 4235.692, "endSec": 4238.792, "text": "want to i'm paid to mix this does it sound good especially", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 4238.792, "endSec": 4239.142, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 4239.142, "endSec": 4240.442, "text": "with mastering sometimes it's", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 4240.442, "endSec": 4240.592, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 4240.592, "endSec": 4259.4, "text": "like they're they're paying me to change it or are they you know then maybe they just want my opinion and maybe they just want me to push the limiter 1 db sometimes but but then and i'm also guilty of sometimes just i probably need to Do something with it", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 4259.4, "endSec": 4259.45, "text": "Hmm.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 4259.45, "endSec": 4271.4, "text": "but but the hard the the thing that takes the longest and most you know, you have to sort of mature as a person to realize when not to and like I think that's a", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 4272.3, "endSec": 4281.9, "text": "when you're confident enough and you have enough work and and I don't know when when not to mess with it, you know,", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 4281.9, "endSec": 4281.95, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 4281.95, "endSec": 4282.65, "text": "I guess", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 4282.75, "endSec": 4284.028, "text": "Yeah. I", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 4284.028, "endSec": 4284.278, "text": "especially", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 4284.278, "endSec": 4284.778, "text": "like that a lot.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 4284.778, "endSec": 4300.428, "text": "with mastering and mixing these days you know I'm sent sometimes it's stuff that the producer wants to wants me to impose a sound on but sometimes it's really do nothing to", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 4300.428, "endSec": 4300.628, "text": "it Yeah.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 4300.628, "endSec": 4307.378, "text": "like then sometimes the mixing is basically mastering but with a second pair of ears", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 4308.3279999999995, "endSec": 4308.928, "text": "Mm-hmm.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 4310.396, "endSec": 4311.546, "text": "Now that's interesting as well.", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 4311.546, "endSec": 4318.246, "text": "Yeah, that is interesting the way that it's evolved. And also I think it's interesting that there's kind of an interesting curve.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 4319.004, "endSec": 4330.504, "text": "that as you get more established and successful as a mix engineer the tracks that you sent your we are sent generally go up in quality too so it's this like feedback effect where you have", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 4330.504, "endSec": 4330.804, "text": "It's full like", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 4330.804, "endSec": 4331.554, "text": "to do less yeah", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 4331.554, "endSec": 4337.554, "text": "right-wing economic politics. It's like the better you get, the less you work, which", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 4337.554, "endSec": 4338.854, "text": "right right that", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 4338.854, "endSec": 4339.9039999999995, "text": "is kind of weird.", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 4339.9039999999995, "endSec": 4340.104, "text": "is", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 4340.104, "endSec": 4340.704, "text": "But like,", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 4340.704, "endSec": 4341.304, "text": "weird yes", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 4341.304, "endSec": 4344.704, "text": "you know, I've worked many hours in my life.", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 4344.754, "endSec": 4345.6539999999995, "text": "dues have been paid", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 4345.724, "endSec": 4346.974, "text": "I deserve this house.", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 4346.974, "endSec": 4348.024, "text": "Yes. Right.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 4348.024, "endSec": 4379.672, "text": "I deserve this, you know. Okay, I'm guilty of, in audio I'm a super right-wing person. No, but it is like that. Like the higher level you reach, the less you have to do. But then the higher the stakes are as well. So the gamble, you know, sort of, the gamble, but the... you have to have a lot of more like the nerves or like yeah", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 4379.672, "endSec": 4380.122, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 4380.122, "endSec": 4381.122, "text": "it's", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 4381.122, "endSec": 4381.922, "text": "I've got two more", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 4381.922, "endSec": 4381.972, "text": "true", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 4381.972, "endSec": 4392.172, "text": "questions for you. One is on that. I wrote down that I wanted to talk to you about the nervousness from big jobs and the lessons learned from losing gigs.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 4394.172, "endSec": 4400.042, "text": "yeah good segue as well I think even to this day I", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 4400.042, "endSec": 4400.592, "text": "Mm-hmm.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 4400.592, "endSec": 4422.742, "text": "you know 90% of the work that comes in it's like just you know I see I come in I sit down I'm like okay yeah I'm great I'm the best and sometimes of course you I'm not I don't feel that confident or even with smaller stuff always but usually it's like okay I know what to do I'm making this better definitely better but then", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 4424.4439999999995, "endSec": 4443.094, "text": "I had just the other week, I was like part of a mixture with an incredibly huge artist. I'm not going to mention who, but I think it's in the realm of 22 million monthly on Spotify. Huge Latin artist.", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 4443.094, "endSec": 4443.744, "text": "Yeah, yeah,", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 4443.744, "endSec": 4453.362, "text": "And I know the producer well, we worked a lot, but it's like... I get nervous and", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 4453.362, "endSec": 4453.862, "text": "Yeah", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 4453.862, "endSec": 4479.026, "text": "it's I get so mad at myself because I'm like then you start like second-guessing like is this what I want would they want this I'm like and it's it's it's horrible but I you know you sort of need to and then I did like a mix I can't remember if I I don't think I sent it but I returned the other day maybe and like And then I was still like,", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 4479.126, "endSec": 4499.126, "text": "okay, I couldn't, you know, but then I sort of got myself together and like shook it off and like, okay, I'm just going to do my absolute best, what I usually do, what I think is needed, and then just send it. And then I at least, at least I know I did everything I could to.", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 4499.126, "endSec": 4530.106, "text": "to like be true to myself sort of because otherwise i would be like if i i didn't get it but that if i wouldn't have done that and didn't get it i would be like maybe it was because i didn't you know so at least you know just trust yourself in in high school there was this course in um something i can't remember but it was such a good that i still like to tell uh younger people who are like starting out", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 4530.812, "endSec": 4554.9439999999995, "text": "when it's about nervousness it's like for performing or doing whatever but imagine a plank on the floor and you can easily like walk on it and balance on it right it's like you know it's like this wide it's fine like you can walk on it if you put one meter up It feels a little bit harder, but you're doing the exact same thing.", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 4554.9439999999995, "endSec": 4575.22, "text": "You're just walking on it and it won't wobble, there's no, you know, it's the exact same thing. But it feels worse. Put it 10 meters up in the air. It's still the exact same thing you have to do. You just have to walk on the plank and there's no wind, there's no wobbliness, there's nothing. Yeah, it's... the exact same thing but it feels harder but", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 4575.22, "endSec": 4575.82, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 4575.82, "endSec": 4599.37, "text": "you're just gonna walk on it and i think that was just that stuck and this is 20 years ago and i think that's so powerful and i try to i try to tell myself that sometimes as well and from there segwaying into losing gigs i think that's the best lesson because with this gig that i that i didn't get i don't feel bad about it", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 4600.028, "endSec": 4629.028, "text": "um it's i learned so much from it uh i'll get the next one you know it's fine or the one after that but i i was struggling during the pandemic because i i you know uh i lost like back then like my live shows were like 80 percent of my business um and now it's like the opposite like now the studio is 80 percent and live is 20 percent but then i was like i got this this full album with a swedish artist", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 4629.628, "endSec": 4643.278, "text": "and I it was the communication with the producers was lacking and I didn't I sort of looked up to them so I didn't want to you know what I would love to do was be like go on the phone with them", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 4644.0599999999995, "endSec": 4648.01, "text": "talk about it but they were so busy on like the next record with another huge artist so", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 4648.01, "endSec": 4648.36, "text": "Yes.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 4648.36, "endSec": 4672.26, "text": "I didn't want to bother them so I had to like okay I want I think we need to communicate so I know what to do and or know what not to do and then I just sent and then I did the mistake of asking like do you want me to send a limited version as a reference or like no limiter and they were like no no keep it dynamic and then I did like and then my mixes were weren't as loud as", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 4672.26, "endSec": 4672.41, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 4672.41, "endSec": 4698.17, "text": "their minus seven ref and I of course it's never gonna sound as good even if my mix was way better so I just and I learned so much and I was for for like a week I was like really out fuck and because they call me like man we're just gonna go with this other dude we always use because I was so bummed about it and but So like you have to lose a bunch of gigs because", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 4698.17, "endSec": 4698.62, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 4698.62, "endSec": 4719.92, "text": "you're gonna end up and you need to learn it's like you know breaking up with girlfriends or boyfriends partners whatever you need to get your heart broken a bunch of times to learn about that and I think maybe that's why in the beginning I was so hard for me I don't know because I'm a sensitive guy but", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 4721.7880000000005, "endSec": 4742.838, "text": "I think that's such a good lesson because then you can sort of think back and just get better. So then I learned like, okay, I need to communicate. Even if I'm being the, I don't know, I talk a lot. Like maybe they'll think I'm annoying, but then I can actually deliver what matters in", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 4742.838, "endSec": 4743.238, "text": "Yep.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 4743.238, "endSec": 4743.938, "text": "an amazing mix in", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 4743.938, "endSec": 4744.188, "text": "Yep.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 4744.188, "endSec": 4744.838, "text": "the way they want it.", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 4744.938, "endSec": 4761.632, "text": "Yes. That's great. That's a great story. And on that, I'm curious, how do you get up the levels? This is a bonus question. When you're doing mixes, do you end up basically mastering your mixes when you're sending out to like a big client like that?", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 4762.082, "endSec": 4775.276, "text": "Yeah, absolutely. I think, because why wouldn't I? So the way my sessions are set up is everything goes to a... like to a master aux where I have the processing and", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 4775.276, "endSec": 4775.776, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 4775.776, "endSec": 4805.268, "text": "my my hardware insert like I have a hardware chain and with all the hardware stuff it's like one one chain left right out and comes back and then I print that it's not limited and then I I have the second stage with this mastering stage and then I print that and then so then I do like overall like if I'm If there's something, because usually I don't change the mix bus too much.", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 4805.468, "endSec": 4805.768, "text": "Yeah,", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 4805.768, "endSec": 4811.068, "text": "I might like shelf more highs or shelf more lows going into the hardware to make it work as I want.", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 4811.068, "endSec": 4811.318, "text": "sure.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 4811.318, "endSec": 4820.886, "text": "But then I would like to apply my... mastering stuff and which is like goes through my cultural tube thing and like distorts the hell out of it", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 4820.886, "endSec": 4839.576, "text": "Yeah. and I just blend it in a bit and then I print so it's kind of an annoying process because I have to print like one mix is like print real time and then print real time again and Yeah. then I'll bounce with limiters and it's like clipper clippers and limiters like volume stuff last", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 4839.576, "endSec": 4839.9259999999995, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 4839.9259999999995, "endSec": 4845.526, "text": "but I absolutely and I try to match or beat the rough mix level", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 4845.526, "endSec": 4845.876, "text": "Cool.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 4845.876, "endSec": 4859.6939999999995, "text": "because I learned that losing a job but not doing it So and sometimes my mixes without limiting is minus 11 laughs They're quite dense and if you know if it's a full", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 4859.6939999999995, "endSec": 4860.994, "text": "Yeah, the arrangement.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 4860.994, "endSec": 4861.1939999999995, "text": "Instrumentation", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 4861.1939999999995, "endSec": 4861.644, "text": "Right,", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 4861.644, "endSec": 4861.9439999999995, "text": "song but", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 4861.9439999999995, "endSec": 4862.644, "text": "for sure, for sure.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 4862.644, "endSec": 4878.406, "text": "they're quite loud and I can get loud without it being squashed with all my analog stuff because it's transformers and tubes and it won't sound like the compressors are hardly working like I sometimes see the needle work I don't want to compress the two bus too much, but", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 4878.406, "endSec": 4878.906, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 4878.906, "endSec": 4882.706, "text": "it's still giving it, you know, and", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 4882.706, "endSec": 4883.556, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 4885.806, "endSec": 4891.506, "text": "stuff. But I definitely like pre-master or master sometimes.", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 4891.506, "endSec": 4892.056, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 4893.404, "endSec": 4896.454, "text": "Like the mix one is mastered and ready to go to", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 4896.454, "endSec": 4896.954, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 4896.954, "endSec": 4897.954, "text": "the ether and", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 4897.954, "endSec": 4898.454, "text": "Yes.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 4898.454, "endSec": 4905.654, "text": "happened the other day. I was like really you don't want to change? I might want to go back. Okay sure just put up. So", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 4905.654, "endSec": 4905.954, "text": "Love", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 4905.954, "endSec": 4906.304, "text": "it's pretty neat", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 4906.304, "endSec": 4906.404, "text": "it.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 4906.404, "endSec": 4906.654, "text": "in", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 4906.654, "endSec": 4906.704, "text": "Captain", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 4906.704, "endSec": 4907.004, "text": "that sense and", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 4907.004, "endSec": 4907.254, "text": "Magix.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 4907.254, "endSec": 4913.654, "text": "it's part of my proposed, what do you call it, of my business offer is", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 4913.654, "endSec": 4913.754, "text": "Yes.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 4913.754, "endSec": 4914.304, "text": "like", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 4914.304, "endSec": 4914.554, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 4914.554, "endSec": 4920.526, "text": "I mix and I master and I offer free mastering for all the mixing clients. Yes,", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 4920.526, "endSec": 4920.626, "text": "Yes.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 4920.626, "endSec": 4922.576, "text": "if you want just a master it's this but", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 4922.576, "endSec": 4922.976, "text": "Yes.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 4922.976, "endSec": 4926.276, "text": "and it's just I will do it anyway so", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 4926.276, "endSec": 4926.876, "text": "You're right.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 4926.876, "endSec": 4927.126, "text": "it's", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 4927.126, "endSec": 4927.726, "text": "That's a good point.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 4927.726, "endSec": 4936.126, "text": "it's free it's free included you know it's a good sales pitch sort of but now it's debunked okay", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 4936.726, "endSec": 4949.126, "text": "I love it. All right. To my last real question. So this is the final final. So the show is called Love Music More and this section is called Love Music Why? And this is a section for you.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 4949.126, "endSec": 4966.992, "text": "To just talk about why you love music Like what is it about music that makes you excited to come back the next day and hit the studio or makes you excited to like just keep going and staying in this field What is it that you continue to love about it? What it's about music", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 4967.892, "endSec": 4969.942, "text": "Wow, it's a it's a big question.", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 4969.942, "endSec": 4971.242, "text": "Yeah, there's", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 4973.192, "endSec": 4974.492, "text": "I don't know I just I", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 4974.492, "endSec": 4974.892, "text": "no wrong answer", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 4974.892, "endSec": 5002.894, "text": "I just love music no, but that's a boring answer, but I don't know, I've done this for so long, like back in the day it was a hobby, I just want to do music and some people ask me like, oh don't you miss playing in bands? And I'm like, this gives me, maybe not equally, not like being on a festival stage and performing, it's not the same, but it gives me the equal amount of creativity and...", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 5002.894, "endSec": 5030.776, "text": "the emotions I can enhance and or detract from the music and you know maybe I'm just a master manipulator I want to manipulate your feelings while listening sort of but I don't know why I do it yeah yeah that's going to be my answer very vague yeah", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 5030.776, "endSec": 5032.526, "text": "That's good. It's a vague question.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 5032.526, "endSec": 5064.238, "text": "but Like I'm blessed to work with music every day and I want to keep doing it and I can pay my bills doing it, it's great even if I wouldn't I would still be you know doing music somehow maybe then I would be back in a band if I had a proper job during the evenings after the kids fall asleep, I don't know. But I'm blessed to to do this and I want to keep doing it", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 5064.788, "endSec": 5067.338, "text": "Oh, that. So where can people find you? Where can people hire you?", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 5068.938, "endSec": 5078.06382781457, "text": "Don't hire me. I've got enough work. I don't want more work. I want to have some time off in the summer.", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 5078.06382781457, "endSec": 5097.472, "text": "No, but I guess my my website is AllinAudio.se Or my Instagram is at GG Beroen, B-R-U-N-N, at GG Beroen. I mostly post pictures of my dog, my kids and records I worked on.", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 5098.272, "endSec": 5098.322, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 5098.322, "endSec": 5101.472, "text": "But feel free to join in on the fun.", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 5101.472, "endSec": 5102.022, "text": "Mm-hmm.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 5102.022, "endSec": 5105.622, "text": "And send me an email. You can find everything on the website.", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 5106.236, "endSec": 5112.236, "text": "Cool. And I'll also link to that great Spotify playlist that you had the, what is it, museo", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 5112.236, "endSec": 5112.436, "text": "Yeah,", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 5112.436, "endSec": 5112.736, "text": ".ai", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 5112.736, "endSec": 5113.136, "text": "yeah. Exactly,", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 5113.136, "endSec": 5113.486, "text": "thing.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 5113.486, "endSec": 5132.684, "text": "the discography. That's amazing. You should check out, you need to check out, I'm not affiliated, muso.ai, I think, because they sort of automatically AI find all your credits and it's amazing. I think I'm going to soon have reached a thousand songs mastered. I think I'm on like 908. 80 so", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 5132.684, "endSec": 5133.284, "text": "Cool.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 5133.284, "endSec": 5146.684, "text": "okay i might need some mastering jobs Yeah. in the next weeks so i can hit a thousand okay i'll give out free mastering you're the first one to hear free mastering for the thousand clients no i don't know i'll", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 5146.684, "endSec": 5147.284, "text": "I love it.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 5147.284, "endSec": 5149.734, "text": "give you a free mastering you'll get a free mastering hey", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 5149.734, "endSec": 5151.884, "text": "Thank you. I'll take you up on that. I make a lot of music.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 5151.884, "endSec": 5166.03, "text": "you're welcome um amazing this was really fun i you know it's going to be a lot of me talking about myself but i love it i love talking about myself invite me to your podcast i can talk about myself for hours yeah", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 5166.23, "endSec": 5172.88, "text": "well thank you so much and i i hope you have a have a great one and i will um i'll definitely take you up on that free mastering and", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 5172.88, "endSec": 5173.38, "text": "yeah sure whatever", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 5173.38, "endSec": 5173.63, "text": "sneak", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 5173.63, "endSec": 5174.43, "text": "you have my email address", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" }, { "startSec": 5174.43, "endSec": 5180.48, "text": "sneak into your spotify playlist yeah looking forward to it well thank you so much for joining", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 5184.348, "endSec": 5184.698, "text": "Oh", "speaker": "Gustav Brunn" } ], "correctionsApplied": [] }