{ "schemaVersion": "v1", "slug": "epic-fail-how-failure-can-lead-to-success", "title": "Epic Fail (How Failure Can Lead to Success)", "kind": "solo", "listenUrl": "https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/lovemusicmore/episodes/Epic-Fail-How-Failure-Can-Lead-to-Success-e33kboj", "contentStartSec": 46.39, "publishedAt": "2026-10-14", "source": { "provider": "whisper", "model": "faster-whisper:base", "normalizedSchema": "v1", "transcribedAt": "2026-06-09T08:47:49.077Z" }, "paragraphs": [ { "startSec": 46.39, "endSec": 73.38, "text": "What's good, everybody?Scoobert Doobert here.Welcome back to love music more.Today I want to talk about a darker side of music making and something that I want" }, { "startSec": 73.38, "endSec": 103.98, "text": "to give the audience and other creatives an insight into because sometimes this podcastcan be very positive.I'm a pretty positive person, but I want to talk about failure.Just striking out.And I want to do it in a way that doesn't get too down on it.But my example, I just spent the last week, week and a half trying to workshop the song.It got super close to the most of the basic tracking and it just sucks.It's bad." }, { "startSec": 103.98, "endSec": 127.22, "text": "Tried singing it different ways.I've tried doing different vocal harmonies.Tried tweaking things and quantizing things.You just poke in a bunch of different ways.I've slept on it.Come back to it.Slept on it again.Come back to it.And it just sucks.It just doesn't very good.You know?I made a bad thing.I'm not going to release it.Sorry, everyone.You don't get to hear my bad thing." }, { "startSec": 127.22, "endSec": 149.38, "text": "But I want to talk about that failure and the lessons that I'm learning from it.And some of the things that I think I did well, some of the things I think I did poorlyand what I'm going to try and take from here, just in hopes that this might resonate withsome people.Because it is very easy, especially as I'm talking all these guests that are incrediblyaccomplished.They talk about their Grammy." }, { "startSec": 149.38, "endSec": 179.86, "text": "They talk about the stuff that got on radio. You don't talk about the song that just sounded bad or the time that you wrote somereally cringy lyrics and just didn't connect with people or all of these things that everyonehas.Music is like baseball.It's at bats.You know, you try and bat as high as you can.Hopefully over that Mendoza line of 200.But it for music is probably way higher than that." }, { "startSec": 179.86, "endSec": 205.83, "text": "But losing, failing, having to scrap a song, it feels bad because there's all that opportunitycost of I spent all of this time working on this thing.It got pretty close and when I assessed it many, many times, I just didn't hit the bar.But there are two things that I want to take away from it is one, I think it's really importantnot to cut something loose too early, but not to cut something loose too late." }, { "startSec": 205.83, "endSec": 231.83, "text": "Like, if I spent another week on this, then I'd really feel bad.But it's time.If I would have cut it loose after the first session, yes, I would have saved me a bunchof this, but it would have robbed me of all the lessons that I've learned from this songthat I can apply to the next song.Namely, the first thing that I learned was I am not a like 18-year-old indie pop singer.You know?" }, { "startSec": 231.83, "endSec": 253.03, "text": "So like, maybe some of the things that 18-year-old indie pop singers can get away withvocally might not be my bag anymore.That's okay.I've got a different bag.I like my voice and it's getting better, but it's getting better in a different wayand it's own way.You know?Like, it's becoming more of a voice that's mine rather than a voice that sounds like major" }, { "startSec": 253.03, "endSec": 274.19, "text": "label, put it in there and, you know, it's going to rip kind of like paint by not paintby numbers.Like, that's offensive.Like, there's some just great vocalists and they just sound like great vocalists andthey kind of sound like everybody else, but they're great at it and they can do it.And it's like, no, I'm becoming more of my own thing.And so writing towards that.So that's one good lesson from this." }, { "startSec": 274.19, "endSec": 294.11, "text": "Another one is like, I've got a good little indie pop song so I can give this to somebodyor whatever.I've set up ad, so not bad song.So it doesn't go away.It's not like a total failure.It's just isn't for me.And also I think approaching it several times and trusting my gut, but not trusting mygut so much that I stop myself from fully exploring something." }, { "startSec": 294.11, "endSec": 317.03, "text": "So I just had a great guest pod, it's probably going to come out in a little while, wherewe were talking about singers that stop themselves midtake and how sometimes those takes thatthe singers get in their heads and stop themselves and say, hey, let's run it back.Can be their best take of the session and they just cut it off so that when you'restomping, you're like, oh, they would have only just kept singing." }, { "startSec": 317.03, "endSec": 345.95, "text": "That internal critic is valuable, but finding the right means and ways to express that ismore valuable.The guests said there's a reason why the actors don't call cut.The director does creating a little bit of objectivity and we you are the producer engineerand artist creating that objectivity is very difficult and the only way that I know howto do that is to go to sleep and then wake up and listen to it again." }, { "startSec": 345.95, "endSec": 366.99, "text": "That's the only way that I can find true objectivity.Sometimes you don't have that luxury because you have a deadline, you got to hit it.But other times, most times, the best way is to go to bed, even if it's a nap, even ifit's 30 minutes, but like literally reset the brain, come back, listen to it, and nowyou can be a critic because sometimes I've surprised myself." }, { "startSec": 366.99, "endSec": 395.77, "text": "You know, I've thought a song is bad, I come back and I'm like, I love this.But it's just kind of, you start feeling that internal voice, the negative self-talk,the imposter syndrome, all that stuff that everybody feels.But the best way to quiet it is to actually ignore it when you're being the artist, totake a nap, go to bed all night, come back and then be the critic.But I did that multiple times." }, { "startSec": 395.77, "endSec": 415.61, "text": "You know, I slept, came back, tried some things, slept, came back, tried some things,changed the form, changed the, and it's just like, okay, it's just bad.It's bad from every angle and that's fine.Move on.But I don't want to move on without assessing it because there's a thing in the militarycalled after-action reports and I really like this where it's just quick and dirty" }, { "startSec": 415.61, "endSec": 438.06, "text": "that's what I'm trying to do here and I'm trying to lay this out in my mentalities.You the listener can also see if this resonates, see if you can take anything away with it.For whatever creative pursuit you do because everybody has creative pursuits is withinlike 10-15 minutes, sketch out like what went right, what went wrong, what did we changenext time, proceed, rinse and repeat." }, { "startSec": 438.06, "endSec": 465.88, "text": "The things that went right are the things that go right for every failure is put myselfout there, tried something, had a goal, saw if I could hit it and I also think that failurecan be a great indicator that you are pushing yourself enough.If you aren't failing then you might just be in too narrow of a band of expression." }, { "startSec": 465.88, "endSec": 490.36, "text": "You're not out on the limb and luckily with recording failure can be, you can come backto it and recut the vocals or you can come back to it and rethink the tempo or whatever.You can do a lot of things with recording but the best part is you can choose not to releaseit.The actual resource that I'm exhausting is just time and opportunity." }, { "startSec": 490.36, "endSec": 513.73, "text": "I'm still hurt, it's a bummer, I like to the song, I got stuck in my head and stuffbut just ain't right.What I do next is I'm going to resist the urge to do something safe.Obviously, I don't want to fail again because I got deadlines to do.I want to hit this, I want to make the song and I want to make it great and I want peopleto hear it." }, { "startSec": 513.73, "endSec": 538.42, "text": "I've got a backlog of a thousand ideas and I want to get to them and if you keep strikingout you won't be able to get to any of those ideas and so it's like, but at the same timetrying not to be like, okay, I missed on this one so let me go right into my bag of somethingsuper easy.Sometimes you have to do that.If you stack too many else, you know, it's like a basketball player, they're missing" }, { "startSec": 538.42, "endSec": 561.02, "text": "a bunch of three pointers.It gets a free throw line, calm down, hit a shot and then you can start chucking threesagain.That same feeling can be the thing in music but ultimately you want to rejoice a littlebit when you're just like way off the mark as hard as it may be and you can tell, thisis fresh." }, { "startSec": 561.02, "endSec": 588.3, "text": "I literally just closed the session 15 minutes ago and said, nope, final decision, clean slate.And I'm really excited about the music that I'm making.I think the hardest thing is interrupting certain flows of certain genres and trying to dosomething else for different opportunities but that's what music is and that's how youcan succeed is it's not linear and that's also the way the modern world is." }, { "startSec": 588.3, "endSec": 614.5, "text": "Once upon a time people could just go in the studio and just make one album but that'sjust not the way the world works.Everybody's got other things that they've got going on and you need to be flexible, risk-taking,poor risk averse, always assessing and napping a lot when you can.Just to keep the brain, the critic and the artist as separate as possible." }, { "startSec": 614.5, "endSec": 634.54, "text": "So yeah, onward to the next one, I hope that this is somewhat helpful for those of youthat have creative pursuits and fail at them because I do too.Every one of my guests has many, many times.That's something I should unpack a little bit more with them because I think it's a reallyinteresting part of the process and integral part of the process for anybody that's creatinganything." }, { "startSec": 634.54, "endSec": 661.15, "text": "Whatever it is, music, technology, anything, there is a jagged and strange path to actualization.You don't just magically make stuff and the times that you do, you've put a lot ofblood out of that alter in order to be able to summon that." }, { "startSec": 661.15, "endSec": 686.51, "text": "And it doesn't come very often, most of the time it's chipping away at something.And the times that it does come easy are paved by past mistakes and past failures.You just don't always recognize it at that time.I hope you enjoyed this episode.Coming up next week, another great guest conversation.So you don't just have to listen to me go on and on and on about my failures." }, { "startSec": 686.51, "endSec": 708.87, "text": "If you want to hear my music, the music that I decided to release, you can go to scoobertdoobert.pizza to check that out.Be sure to share this with your friends, share the podcast with the people because it'sthe best way for us to grow.I'll see you next week.Thanks for listening." } ], "correctionsApplied": [ { "id": "fuzzy-host-name", "count": 1, "note": "Fuzzy host name (rapidfuzz) (83.87096774193549%): 'Scooper-Doobert' -> 'Scoobert Doobert'" }, { "id": "scubaord-url", "count": 1, "note": "Outro URL ASR typo" } ] }