{ "schemaVersion": "v1", "slug": "dana-roth", "title": "Input To Put In with Dana Roth", "kind": "interview", "listenUrl": "https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/lovemusicmore/episodes/Input-To-Put-In-with-Dana-Roth-e3l2jpv", "contentStartSec": 83.028, "publishedAt": "2026-10-14", "source": { "provider": "openai", "model": "gpt-4o-transcribe-diarize", "normalizedSchema": "v1", "transcribedAt": "2026-06-26T05:16:23.218Z" }, "paragraphs": [ { "startSec": 83.028, "endSec": 89.778, "text": "What's good, everybody? Welcome back to Love Music More. I am Scoobert Doobert joined with Dana Roth. Welcome to the show.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 90.878, "endSec": 92.67800000000001, "text": "Hi, thanks for having me.", "speaker": "Dana Roth" }, { "startSec": 92.67800000000001, "endSec": 108.278, "text": "So great to have you. I'm so excited to talk about your fascinating career. I was watching you shred on bass with one of my favorite Nowhere songs. And then I was watching incredible animations and", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 109.204, "endSec": 115.30399999999999, "text": "It kind of blew my mind that it's the same person. How did you find that talent, develop that talent, develop those skills?", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 115.30399999999999, "endSec": 123.06813793103447, "text": "So I started as a bass player pretty much yeah and then I went to Berklee College of Music started 2016.", "speaker": "Dana Roth" }, { "startSec": 123.06813793103447, "endSec": 148.368, "text": "I graduated 2020 into the pandemic in Berklee I also majored in like music production engineering that kind of stuff and played a bunch and when I was graduating it was both COVID so no live music or anything we were like learning on zoom producing from home so our final projects I think at this point I had a bit of a school Berklee burnout which is", "speaker": "Dana Roth" }, { "startSec": 148.368, "endSec": 148.568, "text": "Yes.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 148.568, "endSec": 162.872, "text": "like a pretty common thing that happens and I kind of felt like I don't know, music became this like stressful thing at this time of my life and I always was a doodling person and", "speaker": "Dana Roth" }, { "startSec": 162.872, "endSec": 163.272, "text": "Cool.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 163.272, "endSec": 187.10399999999998, "text": "I always always kind of wanted to learn how to animate but never had the time and this was like again COVID so I just went for it and very fast I started like getting commissions from my friends and colleagues and it just kind of picked up. um pretty organically so yeah but now I love music again I do both", "speaker": "Dana Roth" }, { "startSec": 188.85399999999998, "endSec": 194.85399999999998, "text": "it's great but also one of the things that I was struck by with your animations is you can tell that somebody that plays made it", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 195.316, "endSec": 214.166, "text": "like you've got the ghost notes on the snare drum in the right place like the fingers are moving in a way that a guitarist or a bassist would move their fingers and so you're able to take these artistic leaps but they're being rooted in um like actually understanding what we do which i think makes it so cool yeah", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 215.54, "endSec": 232.14, "text": "Thank you. Yeah, it's like, yeah, I'm a very like rhythm driven person. And I think yeah, both music and then naturally when I work on a music video, it would be very like reactive to the music itself and hopefully musical and groovy.", "speaker": "Dana Roth" }, { "startSec": 232.64, "endSec": 253.35799999999998, "text": "yeah exactly well i think that's an interesting thing that we could talk a little bit about is so as a bass player obviously you're like running the groove And on the video and animation side, I feel like a lot of video editors or even just people that watch music videos don't realize that there is such a groove to the cuts, the edits, the choices.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 253.35799999999998, "endSec": 262.158, "text": "How do you navigate that? Is that intuitive or are you just kind of like rolling through stuff or do you kind of storyboard and plan out? Like what's that process look like?", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 262.804, "endSec": 290.304, "text": "That's a good question. A lot of it is pretty chaotic, my process. I try to get like a better like structure as I like the more I do this but I usually like have a rough idea for the video or for what I'm doing but as I go I will try like when I start with the rough and stuff I do try to be intentional like with the timing and I think generally like animation even if it's not like", "speaker": "Dana Roth" }, { "startSec": 290.132, "endSec": 308.9498918918919, "text": "like reacting to music it is like an art that happens in time and like timing is a big part of it so Anyway, like people who do this are very conscious of it, but I just try to bring this extra level of like being conscious of the timing of the animation and how it relates to the music.", "speaker": "Dana Roth" }, { "startSec": 308.9498918918919, "endSec": 318.14, "text": "So yeah, if I do a loop, I'll try to fit it into a certain number of bars or like I'll try to make sure things are landing in a cool way with", "speaker": "Dana Roth" }, { "startSec": 318.14, "endSec": 318.44, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 318.44, "endSec": 318.79, "text": "the music.", "speaker": "Dana Roth" }, { "startSec": 318.79, "endSec": 341.714, "text": "Yeah, that makes sense. That makes sense also, too, why people like music videos are a huge time investment to go film and do all that kind of stuff and so I could see how the beautiful beautiful thing of incredible animation that people are excited to watch feels like the song feels like an extension of the song and is something that you don't necessarily have to go on like a week of shoots to accomplish", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 341.714, "endSec": 345.214, "text": "yeah i mean sometimes we do both like sometimes i like to combine", "speaker": "Dana Roth" }, { "startSec": 345.214, "endSec": 346.514, "text": "how does that work okay", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 346.514, "endSec": 361.206, "text": "i mean i don't i don't direct like filming and stuff but sometimes i would like like to have like footage of the band or the artist and then do stuff that either like layer the animations or top or use it to like create mats or that kind of thing so", "speaker": "Dana Roth" }, { "startSec": 361.206, "endSec": 374.75600000000003, "text": "that makes a lot of sense that makes a lot of sense yeah a really fascinating thing also in terms of like the colors and vibe that you pick are you trying to find something that fits the song the band like how are you reaching for yeah like what your palette looks like", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 374.75600000000003, "endSec": 381.376, "text": "it's a good question I think palette it's kind of a thing that I do kind of cook as I go I feel", "speaker": "Dana Roth" }, { "startSec": 381.376, "endSec": 381.426, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 381.426, "endSec": 398.252, "text": "like and must massage it as I go I think it is like ultimately trying to capture a vibe that feels aesthetically pleasing to me. Yeah, I think I always try to like do something obviously that fits like whatever I do.", "speaker": "Dana Roth" }, { "startSec": 397.93757522123894, "endSec": 414.41999999999996, "text": "But yeah, I also choose my clients in a way that I try to take only projects that feel like deeply connect with my style and feel like it's right for the kind of thing I do. so i don't know it goes both ways it", "speaker": "Dana Roth" }, { "startSec": 414.41999999999996, "endSec": 434.96999999999997, "text": "yeah it makes a ton of sense um in terms of like how how much time it takes like i i'm i don't know i don't have any background in animation what is what does it look like what's the process what's it how do you how do you start how long does a typical music video or even just a single animation like how long does that take like", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 435.12, "endSec": 437.32, "text": "takes a long time like", "speaker": "Dana Roth" }, { "startSec": 437.32, "endSec": 437.41999999999996, "text": "yeah", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 437.41999999999996, "endSec": 441.07, "text": "it's it looks like super slow a lot yeah i mean i do i work", "speaker": "Dana Roth" }, { "startSec": 441.652, "endSec": 468.30199999999996, "text": "frame by frame for the most part like I work kind of like a combination of like animating in photoshop and then like doing stuff in after effects and it's very time consuming like a lot of what I do is like more shorter loops like most artists that I work with don't have the budget and the timeline like to do a full-on music video like it only happened multiple times yeah and like then second loop that looks really nice and", "speaker": "Dana Roth" }, { "startSec": 468.5, "endSec": 473.7, "text": "a bunch of stuff going on can take like a week week and a half of work does yeah yeah", "speaker": "Dana Roth" }, { "startSec": 473.7, "endSec": 483.45, "text": "that answer your it does question it does because then i'm picturing yeah like a full like three and a half minute music video it's like all right months and yeah yeah yeah", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 483.45, "endSec": 488.65, "text": "it's like I'm kind of getting married with a song for like two months when I do that", "speaker": "Dana Roth" }, { "startSec": 488.65, "endSec": 494.4, "text": "total sense yeah uh that's that's really interesting too um so i was listening to your record uh", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 494.612, "endSec": 516.5120000000001, "text": "before the podcast just hang out with my dog it was a lovely time but i was thinking about the combination of what it must be like to be in a recording studio which i know very well you're looping the song you're practicing the song you're mixing the song and it's like you're living with that song very very deeply do you get sick of the song if you're making an animation for it and recording it", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 517.364, "endSec": 519.964, "text": "I think I get sick of the song before and", "speaker": "Dana Roth" }, { "startSec": 519.964, "endSec": 522.864, "text": "yeah okay you need to hack around yeah", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 522.864, "endSec": 541.514, "text": "then at this point we're already like after like we're like kind of make friends again with your own yeah I mean yeah I think yeah creating yeah such an emotional roller coaster of like you know really loving what's happening and then being like oh this sucks and then you know I don't know for me at least", "speaker": "Dana Roth" }, { "startSec": 541.864, "endSec": 545.764, "text": "yeah that's well said and i also think that's something that can really help people to hear", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 545.908, "endSec": 571.408, "text": "sure because i think one of the things that got me when i was making my first few records was comparing what i was doing in the studio to actual like commercially released mastered music and being like what the hell and then at the very very end after months and months of editing and all and then you master and you go oh okay yeah it can kind of hold up now but it can be lonely it can be really challenging you can want to give up", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 571.668, "endSec": 576.318, "text": "And I think a lot of people don't know that everybody's going through that too.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 577.524, "endSec": 588.424, "text": "yeah I think it's so helpful like I love like for instance going into rabbit holes of like trying to find videos of artists that I love talking about their process like Tammy Pala and stuff and", "speaker": "Dana Roth" }, { "startSec": 588.424, "endSec": 588.674, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 588.674, "endSec": 609.3399999999999, "text": "and they feel like a little more human and a little more or they also hate their stuff at some point and it's like it just like helps you yeah to accept it that's like the pain or there is the gap between you what you want it to be and where it is right now that it's sometimes just really really painful so it's", "speaker": "Dana Roth" }, { "startSec": 609.3399999999999, "endSec": 611.99, "text": "yeah so yeah I guess it's just a part of it yeah", "speaker": "Dana Roth" }, { "startSec": 611.99, "endSec": 614.14, "text": "yeah i think it's just a part of it and also like a", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 614.14, "endSec": 625.54, "text": "yeah lot of the times when it gets cool it'll end up going to a place you didn't anticipate in the very beginning and then you're just like gonna end up over here but you're cool with it you like never actually accomplish the goal cool", "speaker": "Dana Roth" }, { "startSec": 625.54, "endSec": 630.79, "text": "I know it's like sometimes it's just about kind of discovering what this song is", "speaker": "Dana Roth" }, { "startSec": 630.9, "endSec": 630.9, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 630.9, "endSec": 642.682, "text": "is rather than for me at least but I feel like some people I don't know. I sometimes have this idea that other people are like more intention. I can envision the thing and like get there. But I guess it, I", "speaker": "Dana Roth" }, { "startSec": 642.682, "endSec": 663.6320000000001, "text": "i'm not i'm mean, yeah. sure other people are though too but i also think that that's part of what like really really creative work is is that you kind of have a very vague map if you knew exactly where you're going to get to it's not super creative anymore it's a little bit more like engineering not to hate on engineering it's just a little bit more like i'm going to follow the plan", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 663.636, "endSec": 672.4359999999999, "text": "plan at the end of the plan i'm gonna have the thing um if you did that in music uh maybe it would work for some people i'm sure it works for some people but i think i would fail", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 673.736, "endSec": 693.73, "text": "yeah I feel like there is this balance of like yeah you do not want to learn your craft and like learn your tools and be able to like envision stuff but then there's just this like element of playfulness and curiosity which I guess It's something like to remind ourselves of, like just being okay with the uncertainty of the process and yeah.", "speaker": "Dana Roth" }, { "startSec": 693.73, "endSec": 712.5300000000001, "text": "Yeah, the uncertainty of the process. That's really, really well put. I feel like that's something I'd like to talk about institutional versus self-taught learning, because that's a similar thing, right? You have a curriculum and you follow it and you're going to learn something at the end versus self-taught learning that is.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 712.5300000000001, "endSec": 720.4200000000001, "text": "inherently more chaotic and can be more or way less productive at least institutional as you're kind of on rails yeah what do you think cool", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 720.4200000000001, "endSec": 736.9200000000001, "text": "Yeah, I have so I thought about this so much because I had this like Berklee college experience of like going for a few years learning production from like amazing mentors and teachers, but also then like animation was like a pretty much self taught thing. Yeah.", "speaker": "Dana Roth" }, { "startSec": 737.4540557275543, "endSec": 758.2379999999999, "text": "And I think like when you go to an art school, there is this this fantasy that you know everything by the end of it and get all the tools and I think in many ways it's It is incredible and it was an amazing privilege to go there and I feel like there are a lot of stuff that I learned there that I wouldn't even know that I need to learn. You know what I'm saying?", "speaker": "Dana Roth" }, { "startSec": 758.2379999999999, "endSec": 758.3879999999999, "text": "Interesting.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 758.3879999999999, "endSec": 766.588, "text": "Like, yeah. Yeah. So it kind of opened my brain to a lot of stuff I didn't even consider I would want to know, which was incredible.", "speaker": "Dana Roth" }, { "startSec": 766.8879999999999, "endSec": 769.088, "text": "Oh, I see you did a little thank you.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 771.6379999999999, "endSec": 779.096, "text": "But then in a way, it also robs you of something that you've gained. you know when you learn something on your own I", "speaker": "Dana Roth" }, { "startSec": 779.096, "endSec": 779.596, "text": "Mm-hmm.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 779.6463946666667, "endSec": 807.9503946666667, "text": "feel like because in a school you kind of get the idea that is both true and false that there is a way a right way of doing stuff because when i learned animation it felt very much like it's kind of my thing and nobody gets to i'm not trying to impress a specific teacher and i'm not there's no like way i'm just kind of discovering that", "speaker": "Dana Roth" }, { "startSec": 800.3503946666667, "endSec": 808.7503946666667, "text": "The thing and it's very much my own and with music school it kind of took away a part of that initial like raw connection, I guess, but", "speaker": "Dana Roth" }, { "startSec": 808.7503946666667, "endSec": 827.9503946666667, "text": "yeah yeah but yeah then yeah it was also dope in many ways. So I don't know and it'd be different for everybody and it's different in different situations but i also understand of so much of what i got out of music school was the people that i was connected with and the pressure to play all the time and the competition all of that was beneficial but yeah learning something", "speaker": "Dana Roth" }, { "startSec": 828.7343946666667, "endSec": 847.5843946666666, "text": "completely on your own can allow you to learn in your own specific way and you can kind of become like your own weird version of that thing versus institutional you do kind of get more herd mentality or you kind of start to play or sound a certain type of way not completely but in a distribution i guess", "speaker": "Dana Roth" }, { "startSec": 847.5843946666666, "endSec": 868.0963946666667, "text": "Which is yeah both cool both like yeah, it's not necessarily a bad thing. But yeah, I feel like you need to relearn how to do things things after you go to music or art school to kind of be like go back to this like we said like this initial curiosity uncertainty just like rawness I guess", "speaker": "Dana Roth" }, { "startSec": 868.2963946666667, "endSec": 884.2463946666667, "text": "Yeah, and also like the I don't know when you're able to keep this has been a through line through a bunch of my guests when you can keep learning stuff on your own and develop the ability to learn stuff on your own you're going to have a better music career because it is such a weird industry and the people that can do a whole bunch of stuff.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 884.2463946666667, "endSec": 901.8903946666667, "text": "stuff are usually the ones that are most successful have the coolest networks i'd be actually really curious have you seen your animation work spill over to your playing in a way that feels like you're building you know different kinds of community or through lines or you kind of feel like they're two different job family things", "speaker": "Dana Roth" }, { "startSec": 901.8903946666667, "endSec": 919.4063946666668, "text": "There's a lot of overlap for sure. I guess mostly... Yeah, I think a lot of musicians, it's kind of more the other way around, but I feel like a lot of musicians that I know as a musician like feel very comfortable approaching me for animation because I feel like I'm kind of one of their brothers.", "speaker": "Dana Roth" }, { "startSec": 919.4063946666668, "endSec": 920.0063946666667, "text": "Uh-huh.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 920.9563946666667, "endSec": 938.2843946666667, "text": "I don't know, sense of like being understood hopefully that they feel like there's a lot of overlap and I love when these two worlds blend and I love I feel like they're both like part of my personality. in many ways and yeah so they're yes that's", "speaker": "Dana Roth" }, { "startSec": 938.2843946666667, "endSec": 955.3343946666666, "text": "That's, what we get that's cool. I'm wondering too about the journey of learning for animation and like, where were the milestones? Where were the feelings like you started to really get it? And was it through creating stuff and like?", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 955.3343946666666, "endSec": 967.4603946666667, "text": "sharing it or was it through grinding tutorials or trying little things like i'm trying to basically separate in my head the artifact and the finished piece versus the process of learning or were they the same thing", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 968.1103946666667, "endSec": 976.2103946666667, "text": "Yeah, it's a great question. And I feel like in many ways, this is kind of, I think I realized when I taught myself animation is that you learn", "speaker": "Dana Roth" }, { "startSec": 976.8623946666667, "endSec": 991.8623946666667, "text": "I feel like it's a better way to learn when you're learning for a project, when you're trying to figure out how to do something specific rather than, because I was also granting tutorials, but also a lot of the tutorials were like, I'm trying to figure out how to do this specific thing for", "speaker": "Dana Roth" }, { "startSec": 991.8623946666667, "endSec": 991.9623946666667, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 991.9623946666667, "endSec": 1031.7003946666666, "text": "a project. So that's how I will go and find a tutorial. So yeah, definitely just like figuring out, like having a thing in mind that you want to create and then figuring out how to get.", "speaker": "Dana Roth" }, { "startSec": 1002.8123946666667, "endSec": 1031.7003946666666, "text": "get there feels like the best way to learn i was also lucky like to intern with two incredible animators one is gival hacker one is daniel gosset shout out to both um and this was also like a really cool way of learning just working for someone getting their insight but also figuring out how to make them happy um like this pressure i think just having outside pressure to like a client or someone you work", "speaker": "Dana Roth" }, { "startSec": 1031.6463946666668, "endSec": 1040.1463946666668, "text": "work for it is very anxiety-inducing sometimes but I think anxiety can be a really cool driving force", "speaker": "Dana Roth" }, { "startSec": 1040.6963946666667, "endSec": 1058.4963946666667, "text": "Totally. Yeah, what I was saying about the self-taught being less productive, when I've had that, it's been because there weren't stakes. There wasn't something that I was scared about failing or really, really excited to accomplish or like I didn't have proof. Like that's another thing that I think is hard, like language learning.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 1058.4963946666667, "endSec": 1077.3863946666665, "text": "uh i will have really good months and really really bad months and terrible plateaus because it is not like i've made something like i made a song i learned an instrument like here it's done there's a flag plant a stakes or or you're delivering something for somebody um", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 1078.1423946666666, "endSec": 1084.0423946666667, "text": "when it's just kind of like it'd be neat to know how to do that sometimes i feel like i should have just taken a class yeah", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 1084.0423946666667, "endSec": 1099.3923946666666, "text": "Yeah, it's complicated. Actually, you have like a pretty vast discography and you didn't have like, yeah, how do you make so much music without like when it's like just your stuff and not like an outside demand for something? I don't know.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 1099.3923946666666, "endSec": 1105.8923946666666, "text": "yeah i mean you can you can manufacture stakes too you know like you say like i'm going to release a song a week", "speaker": "Dana Roth" }, { "startSec": 1105.8543946666666, "endSec": 1128.4043946666666, "text": "week or i am going to have uh this time every single week i'm going to make as much progress as i cumulatively possibly can and you just kind of keep that and because there's an artifact because there's like a thing at the end you can hold yourself accountable as like did i do the thing is the thing released are people liking it versus something that's like really nebulous of like", "speaker": "Dana Roth" }, { "startSec": 1128.9583946666667, "endSec": 1147.7583946666668, "text": "a language i think is a good example of it's like i don't have a conversation coming up at the end of the week maybe you could with the tutors i think like the stakes are not that high you just could call in sick with a song or something like that especially if you have other people like a manager or team and you say i'm gonna do this like you go do it you know that's helpful", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 1148.6383946666667, "endSec": 1154.0883946666668, "text": "Yeah, Maybe that's the right answer. You need a team. You need people that hold you accountable and you feel accountable too.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 1154.0883946666668, "endSec": 1168.3383946666668, "text": "yeah, affect people, yeah. Also involving people in your projects, like having players that play your music or stuff. I think this is also a thing that like, yeah, for me, it's like, oh shit, it's not just me in a room,", "speaker": "Dana Roth" }, { "startSec": 1168.3383946666668, "endSec": 1168.4383946666667, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 1168.4383946666667, "endSec": 1171.5883946666668, "text": "it's like a thing in the world and yeah, for sure.", "speaker": "Dana Roth" }, { "startSec": 1171.5883946666668, "endSec": 1175.4008995210356, "text": "All right, you interrupt this very important broadcast. What I'm asking for is...", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 1175.4008995210356, "endSec": 1202.2303946666666, "text": "Or is for you to rate it five stars to share it with your friends This is like the most important thing for this podcast to grow So if you want to do this you go on to the podcast screen right you click on the dot dot dot on Spotify Under there it says rate show and you go and you click it five stars If you could do that for me, that's the best way for the algorithms all this stuff to share it out with the world I know that it's a lot to ask but if you could please please please just please just hit those three dots and a five star It really help us out and helps us you know get", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 1202.1103946666667, "endSec": 1210.9103946666667, "text": "You know, get the word out and spread the love of music. So thank you. If you're listening on YouTube, you know what to do. Like, subscribe, all that good stuff. Thank you so much, and here's the rest of the episode.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 1211.0603946666668, "endSec": 1227.3603946666667, "text": "I'd So like to talk more about Airship and how you selected track flow, which is really nice, and collaborators. Really loved hearing the different vocalists come in. And what was the process of kind of scaffolding out your goals? And then how did you kind of decide who to", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 1227.3603946666667, "endSec": 1227.7666446666667, "text": "work with?", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 1227.7666446666667, "endSec": 1235.0303946666668, "text": "Yeah, so this is. With this album it's kind of like a lot of stuff that I like projects that I did at Berklee, songs", "speaker": "Dana Roth" }, { "startSec": 1235.0303946666668, "endSec": 1258.1303946666667, "text": "Okay, I wrote, yeah. new stuff and at some point I felt like I have a lot of stuff that are like 85% there that I kind of want to put together into an album. By the time I was like at some point I did realize like I had the idea that I'll have this album and I'm gonna mix and do everything on my own but then it just sucked and I didn't like it anymore and I called my friend.", "speaker": "Dana Roth" }, { "startSec": 1258.1303946666667, "endSec": 1287.4223946666666, "text": "uh Daniel Blonde who's like kind of a second like we co-produce it basically we met at his studio in New York and he helped me like put it all together he's on one of the songs too so yeah I feel like it's kind of like you know it's half instrumental and then there are some like featured voices which most of them are there's Daniel there's Alex there's Jenny and there's Pisha one of them I met at Berklee the rest are like kind of friends called", "speaker": "Dana Roth" }, { "startSec": 1287.3263946666666, "endSec": 1310.0263946666669, "text": "colleagues people I worked in the past and yeah I guess I do like I don't sing myself and I don't write lyrics but I do love listening to songs so I kind of needed people to help me like I had those like tracks and stuff and I just felt like they could be songs basically I don't know like", "speaker": "Dana Roth" }, { "startSec": 1310.0263946666669, "endSec": 1327.7343946666667, "text": "yeah that's a good that's a good answer and i think that that is very relatable to a lot of people that make instrumentals and they're like yeah but i still like songs like i want to do both a lyrical song when did you know it was done when did you feel like it went from that 85 to that 95 and then to the 100 like yeah", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 1327.7343946666667, "endSec": 1340.4843946666667, "text": "yeah so this was helpful it helped that I didn't mix it myself but Danielle did and we basically at this point it's funny like the thing that really pushed me like to call him and start this process was like this label", "speaker": "Dana Roth" }, { "startSec": 1341.4383946666667, "endSec": 1348.1883946666667, "text": "called raw tapes originally like contacted me because I was putting those like tiny snippets of animation in my own music and", "speaker": "Dana Roth" }, { "startSec": 1348.1883946666667, "endSec": 1348.6383946666667, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 1348.6383946666667, "endSec": 1367.0383946666666, "text": "they asked if I want to like create an album out of it eventually it didn't work out with them but this kind of pushed me to like actually like put myself together and finish it so yeah by the time I was doing it like I was working with Daniel I was paying him for like studio time and for his time so I was just like okay", "speaker": "Dana Roth" }, { "startSec": 1367.6783946666667, "endSec": 1386.1783946666667, "text": "I want to finish this album let's just book those few sessions I came especially to I was living in Boston at the time and then in SF like I wasn't living in New York so I would go especially to work with him and it was just like we have this much time to finish it and then it's done so you know we could", "speaker": "Dana Roth" }, { "startSec": 1386.8783946666667, "endSec": 1398.486587437751, "text": "work on it more but I just wanted to finish it at this point honestly and yeah and it was so great to have another person who's also like he's incredible go check out his band called Dr.", "speaker": "Dana Roth" }, { "startSec": 1398.486587437751, "endSec": 1419.2303946666666, "text": "B and he's doing like sample packs and stuff he's an amazing amazing producer and drummer and sound designer so I was kind of sick as we started this conversation I was sick of the song by this point for sure and then it kind of kind of became fun again once there was another person who's so talented. So yeah, did that answer your", "speaker": "Dana Roth" }, { "startSec": 1419.2303946666666, "endSec": 1442.7303946666666, "text": "It question? did. That's also, I think, a really cool way to look at it, too, where you can pull people in to give you that next like little boost of energy or the next leg of the race when you start to kind of exhaust and like, I don't know what to do next. That's the perfect time for collaboration or for input or whatever to try to keep that excitement because that's one of the weirdest things with creation.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 1442.7303946666666, "endSec": 1451.8543946666666, "text": "is that when you're excited you can go and go and go and the ideas flow and flow and the second that you're not they all just kind of shut off and you get really sleepy", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 1452.4043946666666, "endSec": 1469.8543946666666, "text": "yeah I just even just opening the ableton sessions I would be like oh my god like it was so messy at this point yeah and only when I contacted Daniel I was like okay organizing making sounds it was all happening yeah it like gave like a boost of life to me", "speaker": "Dana Roth" }, { "startSec": 1469.8543946666666, "endSec": 1493.4623946666666, "text": "yeah and you know what those are actually those are those are two it goes back to the accountability now you have a teammate you have the people and then also the stakes and like you're you're there for that amount of time and that's a really good i think that's also a danger in digital recording is you can go forever you can do whatever you want and when you're actually working with somebody or you're in a studio there's a reason why people used to do that because you could see it get the dang thing done", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 1493.7623946666668, "endSec": 1500.1563946666668, "text": "Yeah, yeah, our time together is limited. Yep. Gotta Make some decisions. do it, yeah.", "speaker": "Dana Roth" }, { "startSec": 1500.1563946666668, "endSec": 1518.3963946666668, "text": "Exactly. Make some calls. Yeah, because when there's infinite possibility for the decisions that you can make, it can get harder and harder and harder to just make one. And that's ultimately, I think, what making a record is, is just the accumulation of 10,000 decisions per song.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 1519.4963946666667, "endSec": 1530.1283946666667, "text": "yeah yeah i mean just limitations are the best man like there there are so many options all the time so just like limiting them a little bit so helpful yeah", "speaker": "Dana Roth" }, { "startSec": 1530.1283946666667, "endSec": 1542.2283946666666, "text": "Well, I feel like bass players are good at that. It's like less strings, often times like less reliance on effects. Guitarists can be the absolute worst at that.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 1543.1783946666667, "endSec": 1553.2283946666666, "text": "i see i see what you're saying yeah in bass yeah you're kind of in search of like the perfect single thing that will drive it as good as possible and yeah with guitar the options are", "speaker": "Dana Roth" }, { "startSec": 1553.3783946666667, "endSec": 1579.5703946666667, "text": "all over the place. And sometimes guitarists, they will... not improve their skill as much because they will have so many different options even just like where to play the note but uh technology and all this sound design and influence and stuff that i can see some guitarists like it's like hey if you just want to like practice clean and like nailed it clean then it would be so much cooler with the effects but then you're not yeah sound", "speaker": "Dana Roth" }, { "startSec": 1579.1427893333334, "endSec": 1593.4247893333334, "text": "Yeah, sound design is a skill too. design's a really good skill too it absolutely is it depends on what you're doing and yeah like it depends on what you're making the genre the vibe but that has not been a situation that i've seen with many basses It's a professional bassist.", "speaker": "Dana Roth" }, { "startSec": 1593.9247893333334, "endSec": 1597.5247893333335, "text": "Yeah, I mean, yeah, it's like you have more responsibility.", "speaker": "Dana Roth" }, { "startSec": 1598.1747893333334, "endSec": 1600.4747893333333, "text": "Yeah, totally. Totally.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 1600.6747893333334, "endSec": 1608.2767893333335, "text": "I know I like being up in the higher registers where you can play a wrong note and call it. caught a color yeah", "speaker": "Dana Roth" }, { "startSec": 1608.2767893333335, "endSec": 1618.5810446524824, "text": "Yeah, I mean it can be dope too, you know. no it can't be but uh sometimes uh nobody hears the bass until they make a mistake", "speaker": "Dana Roth" }, { "startSec": 1618.5810446524824, "endSec": 1631.2767893333335, "text": "i play bass too i love it not as well as you do but i'm curious so uh how did you find about knower why did you pick uh transcribing that that bass line", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 1631.2767893333335, "endSec": 1632.7267893333335, "text": "Oh, and are you talking about this? specific", "speaker": "Dana Roth" }, { "startSec": 1632.7267893333335, "endSec": 1633.1267893333334, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 1633.1267893333334, "endSec": 1662.4347893333334, "text": "yeah i did a bunch of like bass covers in the past i just love no i don't know it's just so good and it's like their bass lines are dope i don't know i just love love their stuff i also recently discovered like referring to this podcast i was listening to dolphin hyperspace which was there and i'm like i'm so into that aesthetic um also like sick bass stuff But yeah,", "speaker": "Dana Roth" }, { "startSec": 1662.4847893333333, "endSec": 1665.0847893333334, "text": "I feel like there are a lot of different bass worlds that", "speaker": "Dana Roth" }, { "startSec": 1665.0847893333334, "endSec": 1665.6347893333334, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 1665.6347893333334, "endSec": 1666.7847893333335, "text": "I really love.", "speaker": "Dana Roth" }, { "startSec": 1666.9847893333333, "endSec": 1667.0347893333335, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 1667.0347893333335, "endSec": 1670.4847893333333, "text": "So nowhere is like one type of thing.", "speaker": "Dana Roth" }, { "startSec": 1670.7847893333335, "endSec": 1671.2847893333335, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 1671.3847893333334, "endSec": 1681.0847893333334, "text": "No, Oh, it's, it's a cool scene. And then, yeah, dolphin hyperspace and Thumpasaurus, one of my favorite funk bands share a bass player.", "speaker": "Dana Roth" }, { "startSec": 1681.7847893333335, "endSec": 1699.1867893333333, "text": "I Yeah. should check Really that source good. afterwards. Really good for those listeners out there too. Thumpasaurus. Some good funk. I just did a funk sub stack post and so I was like listening to them and all the greats from James Brown all the way up to you know Funkadelic and then Thumbersaurus.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 1699.9687893333335, "endSec": 1702.3687893333333, "text": "Wow, what a fun post it sounds.", "speaker": "Dana Roth" }, { "startSec": 1702.3687893333333, "endSec": 1714.4687893333335, "text": "yeah it was a it was a really good saturday just me and my dog listening to funk music doesn't get that much better actually yeah why don't i turn it on you what do you think makes something funk yeah", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 1714.4687893333335, "endSec": 1723.2687893333334, "text": "I think if it makes you do, but yeah, it's the bass i I don't know, what are genres even?", "speaker": "Dana Roth" }, { "startSec": 1723.3687893333333, "endSec": 1727.5187893333334, "text": "I know right totally it's so hard it's so hard when i'm like okay i'm gonna write", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 1727.3927893333334, "endSec": 1750.0927893333333, "text": "write a post about a genre like what even is the genre where does it even come from like i don't know i'm gonna do some googling but like i know that uh the lines are way blurrier than what i'm trying to do and i'm not like writing a definition funk is defined by stanky bass face and syncopated horns it's like no funk is a vibe a feeling i guess i don't", "speaker": "Dana Roth" }, { "startSec": 1750.0927893333333, "endSec": 1750.9927893333333, "text": "It's know it's a flavor.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 1750.9927893333333, "endSec": 1753.0927893333335, "text": "a flavor it's a flavor", "speaker": "Dana Roth" }, { "startSec": 1754.2087893333335, "endSec": 1769.6087893333333, "text": "Yeah, also curious about the balance between giving a service and maintaining artistic boundaries, like protecting your creative freedom and space, kind of how you navigate that maybe first in the visual world and then second as a player.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 1770.0087893333334, "endSec": 1777.5727893333333, "text": "Yeah, I feel like, yeah. individual work it's kind of like a part of my daily life like dealing with that sometimes", "speaker": "Dana Roth" }, { "startSec": 1777.5727893333333, "endSec": 1806.7127893333334, "text": "Really? um because yeah I work with artists on their music on like making visuals for their stuff so people have like strong feelings for sure and I do want to like make something that they will feel connected with and but at the same time I do feel like there is It's just so much healthier when you let Like when I feel trusted and when I feel like someone wants me to do myself,", "speaker": "Dana Roth" }, { "startSec": 1807.0627893333333, "endSec": 1828.1127893333332, "text": "I feel like I do give more and like when the client has a lot of ideas of like behind two particular effects, sometimes there's a point where I kind of abandon my own compass of what's like cool and beautiful and kind of try to please and I feel like this is a very unhealthy place to get to. But yet.", "speaker": "Dana Roth" }, { "startSec": 1828.1127893333332, "endSec": 1856.7927893333335, "text": "Yeah it is it's your service it's your like you still need to make sure everybody's happy so yeah I think I'm still learning how to communicate this boundary and be like actually it would be great if you trust I mean but sometimes I'm open to suggestions too and that kind of thing so yeah but it's like yeah in any creative things like whether you're a player or a producer or like if you're working with someone that's kind of service but also putting in your artistry", "speaker": "Dana Roth" }, { "startSec": 1857.4407893333334, "endSec": 1860.9907893333334, "text": "Yeah, you just want to be trusted and want to be generous.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 1861.3907893333335, "endSec": 1861.5407893333334, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Dana Roth" }, { "startSec": 1861.5407893333334, "endSec": 1880.8407893333333, "text": "yeah i think there's there's good learning in there too for somebody who's going to hire someone like you that's musician maybe they never hired anybody before maybe they've never really commissioned anything and they're probably looking to be over prepared but they might end up doing the exact wrong thing because they come to you because your stuff's dope and it's like do you", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 1881.6967893333335, "endSec": 1889.2467893333335, "text": "yeah and i feel it's such a common mistake and i consider myself as a client being trying to be like really tight and responsive and", "speaker": "Dana Roth" }, { "startSec": 1889.2467893333335, "endSec": 1889.2967893333334, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 1889.2967893333334, "endSec": 1907.4467893333335, "text": "know what i want but at the same time like you might get a much better product if you kind of let the person do their stuff and i mean it's a balance always and of course you're an artist too you have like input to put in but i feel like just it's something like", "speaker": "Dana Roth" }, { "startSec": 1907.4567893333333, "endSec": 1921.5067893333335, "text": "like yeah when you hire someone to do work I feel like it's something to keep in mind that a lot of people will just give you a better like be more generous with their thing when you're just like I want you to do your thing on", "speaker": "Dana Roth" }, { "startSec": 1921.5067893333335, "endSec": 1940.4367893333333, "text": "yeah my thing yeah yeah that's true and i also it makes sense too like you can only take in so much and you can only be kind of boxed in so much but if You are selective as to what you're really trying to communicate or the references that you bring It's probably easier to be like, okay,", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 1940.5367893333334, "endSec": 1948.7367893333335, "text": "I get what you're going for It's like a whole bunch of stuff or trying to really really really be buttoned up I feel this with production if somebody's asked me to make them a track", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 1949.2807893333334, "endSec": 1961.4807893333334, "text": "and they give me a whole bunch of references like I want the kick drum from here with the snare drum from here a totally different genre totally different genre and like I'm just I think I'm just gonna like do that now instead of make you a song yeah", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 1961.4807893333334, "endSec": 1974.9807893333334, "text": "yeah i know and they're like there's no more you like there's no more your artistic idea of like it's just like okay it's like executing someone's like vision that i'm not sure i even feel but i just", "speaker": "Dana Roth" }, { "startSec": 1975.0087893333334, "endSec": 1975.2587893333334, "text": "Uh Yeah. -huh.", "speaker": "Dana Roth" }, { "startSec": 1975.2587893333334, "endSec": 1995.5587893333334, "text": "Exactly. Exactly. Yeah, I've felt that way a lot with making music for commercials sometimes. Sometimes it's cool, but a lot of the times it is like you're just given someone else's frame of mind completely and you're doing your best to bring it to life. But that might be those kind of musicians that are really good at linear music creation.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 1995.5587893333334, "endSec": 2003.4747893333333, "text": "whereas I'm really bad at that I'm good at like getting stuff done but I'm really bad at being like I'm gonna make a song that sounds like this song it's like you did not mad", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 2003.4747893333333, "endSec": 2007.4247893333334, "text": "it's such a specific skill which I also have like mad respect for", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 2007.4247893333334, "endSec": 2008.7747893333335, "text": "respect oh like you know it's", "speaker": "Dana Roth" }, { "startSec": 2008.7747893333335, "endSec": 2022.1447893333334, "text": "my god it's kind of like especially for commercials when you get like a very specific brief and it's not about you but you just know how to do this thing like it's I am also jealous of people who have this like just array", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 2022.1447893333334, "endSec": 2036.5947893333334, "text": "which is cool of tools and and they because there is also something really liberating and fun about doing a work that's not like all you and it's just like doing something that yeah I don't know it can also be just like very playful and fun", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 2036.5947893333334, "endSec": 2050.7927893333335, "text": "yeah it's got to be similar like movie scoring but like i had one person that wanted a documentary and they're like we want like ethereal drones but we don't want to feel anything we want it to be entirely neutral just", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 2050.7927893333335, "endSec": 2066.0427893333335, "text": "What normal does that mean? normal motion i know i failed they didn't hire me they didn't use my music i didn't like it was several rounds of like really feeling sad with this one okay this one feels a little frustrated i'm like oh no", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 2067.2967893333334, "endSec": 2071.2467893333333, "text": "Wow, oh are you thinking you sure my best friends they weren't are you sure they weren't trolling you", "speaker": "Dana Roth" }, { "startSec": 2071.4967893333333, "endSec": 2099.4767893333333, "text": "oh my god my best one was i was doing one and they said we want the drums to be a little more like crazy like think um like the muppets i'm like all right so i did like a crazy kind of and then the next round was sorry sounds a little bit too much like the muppets I didn't look like Trollop, you asked me to do that. But it is what it is. They've got bosses too, I get how it goes.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 2099.4767893333333, "endSec": 2104.8767893333334, "text": "Yeah yeah wow it's such a specific reference though I Muppets we", "speaker": "Dana Roth" }, { "startSec": 2104.8767893333334, "endSec": 2109.3767893333334, "text": "If we would have nailed it, then we would have gotten that commercial and we didn't. So we didn't.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 2110.8767893333334, "endSec": 2114.076789333333, "text": "cannot Now we're good. Yeah, cannot, no.", "speaker": "Dana Roth" }, { "startSec": 2114.2267893333333, "endSec": 2124.4687893333335, "text": "Every strength brings a weakness. cannot have all strengths that would be super weird you can get a lot of stuff done regardless of your strengths or weaknesses but not everybody can do everything in", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 2124.4687893333335, "endSec": 2129.7187893333335, "text": "yeah this it's fashion good to remember to to be like okay that's just not me and it's not yeah yeah", "speaker": "Dana Roth" }, { "startSec": 2129.7187893333335, "endSec": 2136.518789333333, "text": "it would have been lucrative but uh you know i made not very much money from it um exactly", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 2136.518789333333, "endSec": 2139.4187893333333, "text": "not gonna earn this money it's okay", "speaker": "Dana Roth" }, { "startSec": 2139.4187893333333, "endSec": 2158.7367893333335, "text": "so yeah i'm also really curious about what you're seeing in uh like music right now like what are the things that are exciting uh exciting to you out in the you know just kind of broader scene and then curious if you're like playing live or kind of how that side of your career is going or if you're focusing mostly on the visuals or some sort of combination", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 2159.6807893333335, "endSec": 2161.0807893333335, "text": "Okay, two questions.", "speaker": "Dana Roth" }, { "startSec": 2161.1307893333333, "endSec": 2161.5307893333334, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 2161.5307893333334, "endSec": 2167.2807893333334, "text": "So one, I did. So I'm in San Francisco. I've been here for the past three years.", "speaker": "Dana Roth" }, { "startSec": 2167.2807893333334, "endSec": 2167.3807893333333, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 2167.3807893333333, "endSec": 2183.2307893333336, "text": "Recently, I started making myself some Brazilian friends and they made me some like they introduced me to some of the best, most uplifting Brazilian music, deep cuts like this friend just made me like this", "speaker": "Dana Roth" }, { "startSec": 2183.2307893333336, "endSec": 2215.3907893333335, "text": "Can amazing you send Spotify. it to me? Yeah, I want it. it's so good. shout out to Mark thank you Mark and there's this also I think Seo George, that's his name, is a Brazilian artist who just released a new album. And in that album, there is a cover to the song Riverman by Nick Drake that he does together with Beck. And it's just haunting and beautiful. And other than that, I like a lot of different stuff. The new Aldous Harding album.", "speaker": "Dana Roth" }, { "startSec": 2215.3907893333335, "endSec": 2220.8467893333336, "text": "Like, I'm kind of into songs lately. But also dolphin hyperspace, Yeah, which I just", "speaker": "Dana Roth" }, { "startSec": 2220.8467893333336, "endSec": 2221.7967893333334, "text": "that's a very the one.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 2221.7967893333334, "endSec": 2230.8247893333332, "text": "recent discovery and I'm kind of obsessed with them now. What else have I been listening to? I don't know. I think that's... feels like an answer regarding", "speaker": "Dana Roth" }, { "startSec": 2230.8247893333332, "endSec": 2231.8747893333334, "text": "Yeah, that is a good answer.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 2231.8747893333334, "endSec": 2255.6247893333334, "text": "playing live so I kind of do like local stuff in SF at the moment I'm booking started to book more of my own shows in the area for my own music with a band I put together I still I still feel like pretty new to the scene and I'm still like finding my people and my musicians but yeah I'm discovering it's a small scene but I'm slowly discovering it a lot of", "speaker": "Dana Roth" }, { "startSec": 2255.8407893333333, "endSec": 2274.5907893333333, "text": "like really great musicians and really cool characters really weird characters but yeah so yeah trying to still have bass stuff I mean I love playing bass I love playing my music so yeah trying to blend that with my like animation commission work and with doing my own stuff", "speaker": "Dana Roth" }, { "startSec": 2275.1407893333335, "endSec": 2287.2667893333337, "text": "really cool really cool so this show is called love music more uh this segment is called love music why And I ask all of my guests the same question. Why do you love music?", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 2288.866789333333, "endSec": 2315.3467893333336, "text": "I think it's the best mind-altering drug out there, you know, it's just so powerful and incredible and it can, I don't know, you can just go through life but once you put a soundtrack to it, everything becomes so much more magical and beautiful. or sad or tap i don't know but it's just dope i think it's great yeah", "speaker": "Dana Roth" }, { "startSec": 2315.3467893333336, "endSec": 2324.0467893333334, "text": "that's so great so where can people listen to your music stream airship and get in touch maybe to hire you for some animation work too", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 2324.3467893333336, "endSec": 2351.022789333333, "text": "i mean my album airship is on all platforms find me on instagram Dana Roth underscore Dana Roth i do animation i do music i upload A lot of like voice works that I do for other people, but also I try to do like some small like beat and animation kind of stuff which I put over there and I'm here in San Fran, so if you're in the area, let me know.", "speaker": "Dana Roth" }, { "startSec": 2352.1227893333335, "endSec": 2360.6227893333335, "text": "sweet well it was super fun uh talking love to hear about your journey and let's definitely uh keep in touch can't wait to hear even more music and i'll be listening to airship too", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" }, { "startSec": 2361.2807893333334, "endSec": 2363.1807893333335, "text": "Thanks so much for having me. It was great.", "speaker": "Dana Roth" }, { "startSec": 2363.2807893333334, "endSec": 2364.0307893333334, "text": "Thank you for joining.", "speaker": "Luke F. Walton" } ], "correctionsApplied": [] }