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      "text": "What's good, everybody Scoobert Doobert, and here for this solo version of love music moreI'm really excited to talk to you guys because we're gonna talk AI againBut in a little bit of a different way, so we're gonna zoom out a bit talk about what creativity isWhat AI is what neural networks are and then try and weave it all together so that you can differentiate betweenfaking it and actually making it making the music and"
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      "text": "And then you know decide for yourself from thereBut there's a lot of like weird misinformation out there and I'm excited to break down a little bitHow this actually works from the lens of the musician from the producer from the creativerather than just from thetechnologist that wants toYou know inflate their stock prices and whatnotSo I'm excited to get into that and it's gonna be a great little mini"
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      "text": "Synopsis of some of the other pods that we've had on on this show, but in a slightly different wayAll right, so how does AI even work?So this is this is one that you knowI've talked to a lot of people that actually do this stuff right that"
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      "text": "Like are AI either on the science side or the engineering side because there really are two different sidesThere's a side that says it works greatAnd then there's the other side that says it works how"
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      "text": "And I would say that the engineering side's doing a little bit better right now because there's some things that are just working"
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      "text": "Because you basically uploaded the entire internet into this thing and for some reason there's some emergentCharacteristics that's a word that they throw out a lot emergent in the same way that consciousness emergesBut one of the things that I alwaysKind of try to take care of or be careful ofIs that there are persuasive tools and the ways that they're namingThese features the ways that they're naming these"
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      "text": "algorithmsTo make them seem more sentient to make them seem more than they actually are"
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      "text": "So a good example of this is you know on iPhone and I'm pretty sure android's got this tooIf you type in a word. Let's just I'll do it right now."
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      "text": "I'm going to type in theThen it has a kind of next wordSuggested for you below and what it's really doing is it saying okayI have seen the a lot of time so I'm going to based on either what I have typed or what it has been trained onSuggest the next word So the it's going to go the it suggests first only most I'm going to go mostThe most suggests important common recent are going important"
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      "text": "The most important part is that the first thingAnd then it just starts to break downBecause it's really just looking at you know very simpleI guess you could call this sort of AI, but it's predictive textAnd a lot of what AI really is is predictive text on steroidsBut it's gotten so goodThat we are now starting to almost anthropomorphize this thingAnd it's really easy for us to anthropomorphize things and so what I"
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      "text": "What I'd like to kind of start off this conversation this one way conversation isThink about how easy it is to anthropomorphize your dogThat is a human characteristic"
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      "text": "More than they actually have yes, of course they have personalities, but look look at even that word personalityIt's like similar to a person their personhood in the same way that when you talk to dog owners are goOh, it's not a dog. It's a person. It's a dog. It's a dogAnd just because your dog's smartYou know, that's I love dogs grow up at dogs."
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      "text": "That's awesome But it's easy for us to dilute ourselves into thinking that they're more than they actually areApply that same kind of logic to like Pixar movies toy story or whateverIt's easy for us toKind of get lured in byAssigning our perception to the object of our perceptionIt's part of the reason why anime fans can get pretty weirdYou know, there's a there's a fine line, right? I love anime."
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      "text": "It's very easy to do thatTo these machines that are very good at predicting The next thing that you want them to say or the next thing that most people would saySo if you think about it in terms of probabilitiesA lot of what they're really doing is just using advanced stats to sayusually when I end a sentenceLike this or a clause like thisI would follow it with a statement like that"
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      "text": "It's a sentient robot It's it there's a person trapped inside of the server which some you know engineers have gotten intoAnd it's kind of led them down some dark paths in terms of psychology where they think like every time they turn off their computerThey're killing their friend we might get thereBut I think I think that a lot of that is coming from the person"
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      "text": "In the same way that those anime fans are believing that their anime characters are realAgain, I love animeBut like there's a limit when something gets really good at predictingHuman pattern human speechIt can feel emergentBut take a look under the hoodAnd really what's going on is that we are creating these little tokensThese tokens."
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      "text": "So it's not actually learning speechIt is assigning each of these words a number And then associating those numbers with other numbersYou feed it. Let me look at this."
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      "text": "This is a crazy thing that I readThere are 176 billion parameters in GPT-3We're on four and five is coming soonYou basically uploaded a good chunk of the internet into this thing Which is a whole other legal question mark right without most of people's consent."
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      "text": "It was publicSo it's mineI can train this robot on your reddit postData is power and If you look at that you go okay yet nobody could program 176 billion parametersAnd nobody's really able to have oversight with that unless they use another AI to look into itOr have this absolutely massive team that nobody's gonna do thatAnd that's the difference between those"
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      "text": "Scientists versus the engineers the engineers go it works parameters whateverIt worksBut the way that it works you tokenizeSo the doesn't become the it becomes like let's say the number oneBall becomes the number twoThe ball those sometimes go togetherNot super often, but like say you're in sportsSo that's gonna be moreSo then it starts to create these little families called clusters"
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      "text": "These clusters start to form these variousWhat's the best way to put this disambiguations it's a big wordthese varioussubjectsthatDifferent words become more or less associated withSoSay for example, you're a training AI to be a really good sports writer"
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      "text": "You would take all of the sports writing that you could possibly find an inherent in that writingWill be a bunch of different patterns. It's going to be for basketballThere's gonna be a bunch of people that are basically using the same sentence"
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      "text": "So you can take that sentence and say hey, it really feels like a basketball article when you write something likeblank player was able toPut the team on his back and carryAnd will themselves to the free throw line, you know will themselvesThat's like a very basketball thing"
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      "text": "And so it that gives it additional weights. Did you do your job? Did you not do your jobAnd over time it ends up creating the appearance of being intelligentAppearance of being emergent and again that might get there"
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      "text": "But there's a difference between outputting new stuff that sounds like a permutation as in a shufflingOr truly new like actual creativityAnd sometimes it's hard to tell the difference especially in someMediumsYou know one of the things I like to talk to guests about are the differences between making art like"
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      "text": "Your art your music the stuff that you're going to put as my artist name or work for hireLike somebody comes to you and says hey, I wantI'll spoil somethingThis is something that I think I'm gonna do"
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      "text": "I want to do a train beat which is teke-teke-teke-teke-teke-teke-teke-teke-teke-tekeUnlike a snare drumWant to do that but really fast because I want to do a song called ShinkansenReally fat teke-teke-teke-teke-teke-teke-teke-teke-teke-teke-teke-teke-teBullet train in JapaneseAnd I want somebody to take a Coltrane-esque solo on top of that really fast train beat so it's like double trains"
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      "text": "You know that's the prompt right? I'm taking disparate thingsSpeeding one up that's usually used in like you know country or folk musicAdding a more of a jazz thing because the guy's name is trainPutting them together."
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      "text": "That's the prompt now the execution is where it really comes into playBecause a robot would get that and be like okay train beat faster a human would get that and go Okay, how could I apply what I know and the way that my limbs work"
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      "text": "On fast beats and then apply what I know about train beats to do that in a way that's totally newI'm not just gonna speed up like I would in a row like a computerI'm going to actually have to biometanically play this beatSo I'm gonna do that and it's gonna be something similar to a train beat"
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      "text": "But not quite it'll be something similar to punk music, but not quite it'll be something similar to drum and bass, but not quiteThat's what I'm looking for and that's really hard."
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      "text": "It's likeWhen I'm creating music, especially the weird stuff like thatI'm reaching out into mist and trying to grab a little bit of itIt isn't as simple as saying I want x plus y equals z It's like not like not at all."
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      "text": "I'm trying I'm saying x because I know what the musician is going to interpret that asI'm calling a certain musician because I know they're tendencies And then I'm gonna record it a certain way like it's like all of these decisions start cascading upon themselvesAnd none of them are as concrete as the words that I said"
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      "text": "And then I have a feedback a conversation with those musicians in a way that I cannot quite yet with an AIThis would be a fun prompt to try both, you knowAnd maybe I willBut then same thing with the Coltrane thing like I don't want something that is just trained on ColtraneAnd it's like I am Coltrane bot."
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      "text": "I'm going to play Coltrane musicYou know it takes a crazy tenor sax solo It's like no, I want somebody that's gonna bring themselves, but like think Coltrane"
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      "text": "And play something completely new just you know, give me a little flash of Coltrane"
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      "text": "Versus something that is purely trained on Coltrane is going to sound like a weird shuffling of that deckOf course, you can always stack parametersYou can always get things farther, but again, it's the difference between a shadow and the thing itselfAnd the fun thing that I like about all of this is it's so philosophicalIt's crazy"
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      "text": "But I like this philosophical stuff especially in creativity because like that's what this isCreativity is philosophical creativity is the highest height that a humanity can doAnd we're trying to create a robot that can kind of do that I guess some people are"
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      "text": "But it's a great measuring stick and it's a really interesting thing that's like hey, it tricked meHe got really close."
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      "text": "That's awesomeAnd then but the leap between saying and so if we just add more parameters, it'll get thereIt will be truly emergentBut a lot of the scientists are sayingWe might need to rethink the whole thing or at least figure out the way that the human brain works because we don't know To be able to get thereAnd on that point the human brain thing I think is really interesting because"
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      "text": "So that you know you fund our stocksBut it's it's still it's it's a cool idea. So basically the idea is like a neuron"
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      "text": "And the way that we did again like kind of break this down for digital is it goes zero or one"
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      "text": "And you're building connections between different artificial virtual neurons so that you can scale upIt's it's a genius really cool ideaUsing the physical world to inspire a digital world"
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      "text": "I like the idea of like what's lostIn the simplificationAnd then you build it back up right through mathematical tools"
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      "text": "So the classic example cats cats versus dogs you upload a whole bunch of cats to this machineAnd then you tell itIdentify whether or not there's a catThis is the early early internet stuffSo like we've had this for a long long time and you can make this if you wanted toI don'tBut you canYou can build these like very simple AI models if you if you have a"
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      "text": "But basically you upload a whole bunch of training data to this thing tries to create the visionThe platonic ideal if you will of a catAnd over time it kind of gets thereAnd then you can take it the next step further and you can say add a catAnd that's what Photoshop can do now you can do this thing."
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      "text": "It's AI generative fillSo you can circle a little thing like say for example I took a picture myself sitting in my studioI want to cat on my shoulder. I can circle the dead space around my shoulder and say add a cat"
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      "text": "You can open up that black box and look inside butAgain, how many was it?176 billion parameters in GPT-3 But yeah, I think it's interesting to think like you're creating ordered meaning spaces was one of the things that they called itAnd like I like to think of that too as writing to referencesSo like the culture and example, but I think a perfect example"
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      "text": "And this is one or I think AI might end up eating our lunch is in like made to order commercial music. SoI was asked at one pointJust a cold email to write the temu adFor that ended up being in the Super Bowl"
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      "text": "Um, it was not a lot of money. It was super tight turnaround. I was busy. I said no"
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      "text": "And it's like one of the worst sounding bits of music. I don't know if you guys heard it if you didn't check it outBut it is a brutally grading advertisement that would have been absolutely soul crushing to work onEspecially because they like I pretty sure it was like $2,000 for a Super Bowl ad to make the musicI don't know if that's what it ended up going with but it was something very very small"
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      "text": "For a very very stressful turnaround time to make some really really bad musicBut that music was likeIt could have been done by a robotMight have done a better jobBecause it was intentionally lifelessIt was intentionally like everything you've ever heard before just kind of like temuYou know like fake shop like a billionaire thing."
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      "text": "It's just it's so hollowIt is like the the final boss of consumerism app So you want the final boss of consumerist music to match it. It's perfectBut that that's a great that's a place where it's like hey youI want the least amount of creativity out of you."
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      "text": "I want the shadow not the objectBut don't confuse the two And that's not to say I'm not excited about it or I don't think that there are great use cases for itAnd I think sometimes it is fun to show the shadow before you fill it in"
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      "text": "One thing that I thought was really interesting is people have been calling again listen to the languageChoice of words people have been callingAI kind of going off the rails hallucinationBut I listened to one research and they were talking about it how hallucinationActually is a good thing in certain contextsYou know on the like classicMemem from like a crime show zoom in enhance enhance again."
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      "text": "Oh, it's the killer That whole kind of thingThey actually have some tools that can kind of do that nowYou can enhanceWhere basically what's happening is just like the words the tokenized thing you can tokenize pixelsYou can tokenize expectations of large chunks of pixels and when you see like oh this usually is matched with that"
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      "text": "Which is usually matched with that you can make these disambiguations like putting the cat on my shoulderYou can do the same thing for video framesIt's like oh, I shot this at four frames per second."
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      "text": "But to an extent you know, that's kind of what it's being trained to do is hallucinateSee something that's not there based on previousprobabilitiesAnd it's funny because uniqueness"
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      "text": "To tilt the rules and make it a little bit more challenging a little bit more funBut it helped me kind of get the ball rollingAnd there's no shame in thatIt's funUse the toolsBut ultimately cultivate yourselfThat's where it really comes fromHope you guys enjoyed this podcastIf you would please rate me a five starsThat would be much appreciatedJust click on the dot dot dot if you're on the Spotify app"
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      "text": "And then it will open up rate showClick on that five starsAnd there will be some incredible guests coming upEliott Glinn is going to be next weekReally a great person kind of on this topic of mixing and creatingMusical sound in a just"
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      "text": "Just different level right like that's what we're all trying to do. That's that's what we want even as music fansAnd that cannot be so easily replaced by the machinesI hope you enjoy these little AI kind of tidbits and turnsI'm trying to follow it every single day just because I find it exciting and challengingIt's like bring it onSo let's do thatIf you'd like to hear my music go to www.scoobertdoobert.pizza"
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